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    Being proud of not knowing things, and having no desire to change that.

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      Sometimes my friends laugh at me for how little I know about pop culture. I laugh back though. I wouldn’t say I’m proud of it but it’s just funny.

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      Being proudly ignorant of everything is bad. I will respect people who know they don’t know things though, you can’t know everything about everything. It’s why people generally specialize in a field in an industry.

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    People who litter. Throw their rubbish out the window of the car. Or who throw rubbish in public, like into drains or sidewalks.

    It’s in the mentality, and I say the lack of education is the reason for it.

    It’s sad to see the people of my country do this, and to see it with your own eyes.

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      I think it’s more narcissism than education. People who are educated can still not care about the environment and preserving public spaces.

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        Hmm, I can see what you mean. “I just don’t care”

        “That’s why cleaners exist right?” “We are giving the cleaners something to do” “This is not my public space”

        The sort of thing people would say when you ask why do they do this.

        I’ve seen all sorts of people. People who throw rubbish out from their Mercedes sedan. People who throw their plastic containers onto the sidewalk from the motorbike while waiting for the green light.

        Funny true story. A colleague of mine was having a smoke with a Japanese guy who was visiting our country on a business trip.

        My colleague threw the cigarette butt onto the floor after finishing. The Japanese guy went to pick up the cigarette butt that my colleague threw on the ground, and threw it into the dustbin nearby. My colleague never felt so embarrassed seeing him do that.

        That’s why I think it’s education and upbringing.

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    Thinking that someone without a formal education is somehow beneath you.

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      On the flipside, the belief that someone with a formal education is somehow beneath you or brainwashed for it.

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      Everyone is below someone else somehow, since you use that word. I’m beneath my friend in film knowledge. I’m above my friend in gardening skill. In this sense, one can clearly be beneath someone else in education. Or height. Or travel experience.

      You meant that regardless of education, we all have the same human worth. That’s true. But yeah you can absolutely be beneath me somehow

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    Not being able to entertain ideas. “What would the world be like with 100% renewable energy?” “Would basic healthcare for every person help our country?”

    I tried to explain the 4 day work week to someone that gets paid by the hour. You make the same money but work 4 days a week instead of 5. Insisted he got paid less. Had to explain like a Bingo card with a Free Space, 1 day he is paid even if he stays home.

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    Not trusting in science.

    Edit: Since there are many comments, I would like to clarify my statement. I meant that you should rather trust scientists, that the earth is round / that there is a human-made climate change, etc. and not listen to some random internet guy, that claims these things are false although he has made no scientific tests or he has no scientific background. I know that there are paradigm shifts in science and sometimes old ideas are proven to be wrong. But those shifts happen through other scientific experiments/thoughts. As long as > 99 % of all scientists think that something is true, you should rather trust them then any conspiracy theorist…

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        i mean i get the impulse, but if we were to blindly trust any sort of knowledge system, science is the one to trust, right? like, any downsides of trusting scientific consensus are necessarily larger when trusting information sources that aren’t scientific, and if you follow through with trusting science blindly, you might ignorantly begin to believe that empirical testing and intellectual honesty is necessary for determining the truth of your beliefs!

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          I would think it’s more about knowing how to trust it. See some news article about “This study said X”, don’t take it as fact. See a study that has been done numerous times by different groups that corroborate a result and you can have a much higher degree of trust in it. There is a reason the scientific method is a continuous circle, it requires a feedback loop of verifying results and reproducibility. The current issue is clickbait headlines getting the attention, people see it’s “Science” and blindly trust it and it becomes a religion like any other.

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      What do you mean by “trusting in science”? Science isn’t meant to be trusted, it’s meant to be verified.

      Given the reproducibility crisis occurring right now, nobody should be “trusting” in science as a matter of course- we should be verifying the decades of unverified research and dismissing the unverifiable research.

      We fucked up the entire field of Alzheimer’s research for nearly a quarter century by “trusting in science”. We still bias towards publishing new research in academia over reproducing existing research. Science has a big problem with credibility right now and saying “oh just trust in science” isn’t the solution.

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        Ok, but I do not have access to labratories or ways to run my proper experiments. Am I supposed to just stay on the fence about everything that I can’t personally test, or should I trust in the consensus from the scientific community regarding stuff like climate change, virology, etc.?

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          The proper scientific answer to that question is not to trust or not trust. You should absolutely do your own testing, whether that means asking good questions of the experts, reading the existing research carefully, up to and including reproducing the experiment yourself where practicable.

          If an experiment is impossible to reproduce, then you should be asking yourself what good its results are.

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              I trust a scientist to follow the scientific method.

              The scientific method isn’t an epistemological framework, it’s a framework for practicing science.

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                And what part of what I said made you think I don’t know that?

                I’m aspedantic as anyone, but at this point you’re being antagonistic. Either you legitimately don’t know you’re doing it, or you’re intentionally trying to make people feel stupid. But you definitely know what people mean when they say they “trust” science.

                Please stop. You’re making pedants like me look bad.

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                  Why assume I’m being pedantic? The social media landscape is littered with “I fucking love science” clickbait, “amazing nature” accounts that are literally AI generated photos, hell, the entire fields of evolutionary psychology and nutrition ought to be a wholesale indictment of our contemporary scientific establishment.

                  This isn’t pedantry, I am serious as a heart attack.

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      unfortunately my dad who has a diploma in engineering and is working in that field for probably 30y now is still prone to it.

      Whoever spread those conspiracies should die a slow and painful death to experience a fraction of what they brought on to a lot of families and friends.

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      Trust what? Many scientists will quite justifiably have completely opposing views (do vaccines cause autism for example).

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        How…

        Scientists don’t have opposing views on thats specific thing*. It’s an example used right up there with thinking the earth is flat.

        One completely discredited study linked the combined MMR vaccine to a new, made up gastrointestinal disorder. That disorder was supposedly linked to autism. The guy who ran the study had financial ties to a company that manufactured a measles vaccine separate from MMR. He had a financial motive. He paid children for blood samples at his kid’s party and bragged about it. He’s a monster responsible for every death caused by the measles since his evil, fake, completely made up study came out.

        You want to know what makes a person seem ignorant? Being anti-vax or buying into the abject nonsense that ASD is caused by vaccines.

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    I see this in a lot of places I do work:

    Toolboxes covered in union stickers, AND Trump stickers…

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      Mb it’s that period from your past life when you still deleting files to have space for you new one.

      They just don’t have the communicative havility to tell us, then ya forget.

      My new religion is this(it has some inspiration from previous ones but hey, tell me one that didn’t)

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    Parents feeding their baby cola in bottles and smoking while pregnant are two things that usually cause me to make assumptions

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      I see so many educated people not realising this. The maths involved is something we learnt in ~ 5th grade, and I distinctly remember doing exercises on marginal rates in primary school in maths class. It’s even simpler than compound interest - which is a staple of maths class later on.

      Yet so many people say there’s a problem with the education system that it doesn’t teach practical skills like these. It clearly does, kids just don’t remember it. Maybe it’s because they don’t need to use this knowledge until almost a decade later.

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        I don’t remember ever having done this in school. In any case, the math is easy, yes. The hard part is knowing the rule that the government put in place for taxing you, and that’s something you just have to know. You can’t logic your way to it.

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      Or being confident about disliking reading in general, whether be it fiction or scientific literature.

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        It’s “Kampf” … I have tried to read a few pages… It’s unreadable drivel.

        Fun fact: The book wasn’t available in Germany for decades, because upon Hitler’s suicide the copyright fell to the State of Bavaria. That recently expired and now you can find some heavily annotated versions.

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    taking Ayn Rand’s work seriously. five seconds of critical thought and her entire philosophy comes crashing down