It’s more complicated, but you can still use crowd-sourcing to recognize the ads. Then use an algo to analyze the ad, frame by frame, and reject that when it shows up.
It’ll take a bit of time, but their strategy isn’t going to last. It’s ‘arms-race’ style escalation on a digital front. Eventually, the crowd sourcing will be replaced by AI/ML tools. Ad companies, like google, will always try to fight back, but open-source will always respond.
You can’t beat nerds that are skilled and passionate about not getting fucked.
Next stop: AI generated Ads.
The game be the game, yo.
Suits me. I have a ton of movies and TV shows to catch up to.
Maybe this is healthier 🤔
It was only a matter of time before Google put their foot down and insisted that you can’t have a good experience on YouTube. Its time is coming.
Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, Telegram, Discord, Reddit. YouTube is literally the last remaining social media app that doesn’t require an account. My real fear is that it will start asking for an account like other social media.
I watch a ton of YT, my experience is fine. Only media subscription that’s worth it, imho.
Shit guess I have to quit yt and move to peer tube full time.
You can still benefit from the YouTube content pool without this nonsense
Adblockers can still mute and stop the user from seeing the ads with black screen (or fast forward). Advertisers will still be mad.
Yes ik they disable the video controls but the video is still served just like before, just that they inject ads into it.
Reminds me of this post: https://lemmy.world/post/16500440
Ah, Black Mirror 😔
This is why Chrome browsers wanted Manifest v3 or whatever- they took away the APIs for extensions to do stuff like that.
It doesn’t affect WebKit or gecko browsers though, or customised Chromium browsers.
If it’s part of the video now, doesn’t that mean we can just fast forward through it?
Because if it’s something explicit in the stream, then ad blockers will just look for that and we’re back to where we are currently.
I guess they could prevent you from doing that by:
- Creating a timestamp
- Sending you the ad
- Refuse to send you the rest of the stream until “Now - Timestamp >= Ad’s runtime”
I guess no more ad-free experience in privacy-respecting clients. Well that sucks but let’s hope it at least won’t kill them completely
I use LibreTube btw
Libretube’s DeArrow and Sponsorblock support is very nice and I like its interface very much.
Idk what’s DeArrow and I don’t use SponsorBlock because it’s not reliable for me lol. What is really good about LibreTube though is the privacy stuff and that it works fine on 8 years old phones. DEATH TO PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!
@GolfNovemberUniform @doodle967 for a moment there my eyes saw “Arch” 🤣🤣
Oh yea I use Arch btw
Friends, for now, my suggestion to you is to use privacy-friendly alternative frontends instead of the official Youtube client.
https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends?tab=readme-ov-file#youtube
Go to your favorite YT creator’s channels and download important content! Educational content, lectures, nostalgic content. Anything and everything you have the storage for.
One day, it will be locked away behind paywalls, poisoned with ads, or just deleted entirely.
Part of preparing for war is stockpiling supplies. Buy bulk storage. An extra 2-4 TB hard drive can be bought for 100-200 dollars. It doesn’t have to be fancy, get a friend or two to go in with you on it.
Download and save everything you value. Rip your physical media and save it, pirate the shows and movies you love. One day it will be locked away or stolen from you because the terms of service changed.
Please don’t delay, I wish I had started years ago myself.
Just keep in mind that hard drives do not last forever. They’ll last a few years of regular use, maybe up to a decade if you’re lucky. Storing media on a hard drive is not like having a box of books in your basement, your kids aren’t going to be able to use them in 40 years.
Oh no, please no.
Will uBlock still work or will that also break when/if this gets added?
Legally, YouTube has to tell you you’re watching an ad. This means that at least visually somewhere (it could be baked into the video stream, for example), there should be a distinctive pattern that extensions should be able to grab and make the video fast-forward.
If youtube manages to stop fast forwarding, maybe at the very least we could auto-mute, and maybe overlay photos of puppies or something
Bad idea. People would get a negative Pavlovian reaction to puppies after a while.
Imagine walking down the street, seeing a puppy and immediately getting annoyed! That’s no way to live, man! 😄
As I understood the ad will be a part of the actual video file you receive but, unlike fixed sponsor integrations, the time it’s shown at will change every time. That is going to be impossible to get rid of without AI unless there are some exploits
I doubt it’ll be impossible as Google will be required by many laws around the world to make it clear if something is an advert, especially in the EU. So there will be a mechanism to know if something in the stream is an advert or not.
Adblockers should be able to adapt but I do think SponsorBlock might be stuffed if users are seeing adverts at different times in the stream.
My guess is that this new mechanism is disadvantageous for analytics
They will also want to block people from skipping the ad. So they’ll have to provide timestamps, when skipping should be blocked. Maybe those can be somehow extracted.
That’s a pretty good idea. As soon as skipping is disabled, start skipping. And stop skipping when you’re allowed to skip again.
That sounds so weird out of context 😄
I guess thats what we will have to do. The cats catching up but the mouse will continue to inovate.
Please no not AI
If you’re degoogling, then just do that instead of freeloading on google services and complaining that they either have to monetize your data or shove ads down your throat.
Find a paid service free of any of that. There are multiple out there.
Nah I’d rather do both; I pay for dropout.tv but I want to keep freeloading on YouTube, and it’s been working great so far, no ads 😉
Can’t. Google shanked them all with anticompetitive behavior. So instead, I think I will do all I can to punish them for that.
But the users aren’t there. I’d love all my favourite YouTubers to switch to PeerTube, but they haven’t.
