Mark Meckler is the president of the Convention of States Foundation and a leading proponent of the right-wing movement to get state legislatures to call for a dangerous Article V convention that will consider constitutional amendments to radically alter American government and society by making much of what the federal government now does unconstitutional.
“I don’t think there’s any way to solve this permanently without military action,” Meckler declared. “[We need a buffer zone] like the DMZ between the Koreas. It needs to be a kilometer of cleared territory that is a no man zone; you come in here and we believe you have hostile intent, we’re going to clear you out.”
“We need to exterminate the cartels and that means going into Mexico,” Meckler asserted. “Now people would say, ‘You’re violating a sovereign country’s territory.’ Well, Mexico is not a sovereign country any longer. Mexico is a failed narco state. The federal government is not in control of their military. The federal government is not in control of their police Their state governments are not, their local governments are not in control of their police forces. That is a failed narco-terrorist state and so we have to treat it as such.”
“To me, this is like Gaza. They’re invading our country. They’re invading our country every day. They’re killing our people, and we have to go in and use maximum force to oust them and create a buffer zone along the border. If we do that, we’ll have border security. It’s that simple.”
The logic of this rhetoric is essentially the same as the logic of modern Russia- “we need a buffer zone”, and the target country “is not a country” and it’s not genocide or imperialism when we have a reason to do it but we don’t have a reason so we have to tell lies to convince our people that we do have one.
Hey look! More mirroring of Nazi forces cling Germany! Fucking GOP
Don’t forget the Wall and no man’s land between two countries where guards are authorized to shoot to kill!
there’s a lot less US politicians wanting a luxury war with mexico than there are people in mexico who will shoot back. One wonders if these dumbasses realize the ramifications of an unpopular, pointless war would mean for them if people realize this.
Did that mf say kilometer? He’s clearly a spy from another country.
We must secure the warm water port and potato croplands for vodk- er um I mean american french fried potatoes
The War in Iraq lasted 8 years and cost over 1 trillion dollars.
So aside from the immense risk of starting a war with a nation right next door to you, …aside from the fact that there would be no clear strategic objectives, it would also cost a fortune.
If the US wass really serious about supporting the Mexican government against the cartels, then they would start with increasing financial aid to said government. But these very same people would probably be against that idea.
Yeah, what’s the endgame of invading? Make Mexico part of the US? Uh…aren’t the racists going to have a problem with that?
The endgame is extermination, always has been.
The War in Iraq lasted 8 years and cost over 1 trillion dollars.
We invaded in 2003 and never really left. In fact, US military units in the country got hit by Iranian rockets just a few weeks ago. They’re still costing money, btw.
If the US wass really serious about supporting the Mexican government against the cartels
The US isn’t going to fight the cartels. The US loves the cartels. They get us all the drugs we consume and give us a lucrative market to sell our surplus small arms.
The US loves the cartels. They get us all the drugs we consume and give us a lucrative market to sell our surplus small arms.
Shipping powders back and forth
Singin’ black goes south and white comes north- John Perry Barlow
Sooo once the invasion is complete and the new southern border is with Guatemala, they’re gonna want to invade them too because the migrants are coming from there? And go on and on to Hondura, Nicaragua, etc.
The best place to stop is Panama. Then you’d have a very small land border and can concentrate all of your army stacks in one province.
Source: played video games in the past
Seems… Risky 🌝
We won’t stop until those penguins surrender!
So, Unitedstateians are gonna help deal with crime but will plant something different to create problems for mexico and the other latin american countries like in the previous century?
Earth. Hitler. 1938.
Gaza 2006-present.
What a fucking idiotic war mongler. We should be strengthening our ties to Mexico not fucking starting a war.
We pretty much are anyways. Alot of US manufacturing is already transitioning over to Mexico. I thought they even recently overtook, or are close to overtaking, China as one of our top trade partners. I think at some point the migration issue may solve itself and people will complain about Mexico taking all our jerbs.
Strengthening ties to the Mexico government is pretty unpalatable given its failure to defeat cartels
Cartels the US directly funds thanks to our insane puritanical response to drugs.
Also true yes
best thing for Texas to do is secede so that Mexico can re-occupy it… then the border becomes Oklahoma’s problem, and Texas doesn’t have to worry about it any more…
Wouldn’t it be easier to set up that “buffer zone” on land that’s already under the control of the US?
Doesn’t that border already have a buffer zone?
But how is the military industrial complex supposed to grab more money?
Wow, how do you even get more murican at this point? Honestly, i’m just impressed
and a nefarious solution to all America’s problems has come to me - draft all your Republicans into the war they really want anyway! And then just leave em in mexico, without their trucks.
Just give them Mexico and they’ll be appeased, they won’t go to Guatemala next! There’s no reason for them to keep going south, it’s not like they’ve previously used their power to overthrow democratically elected leaders in central America before
This is the exact same logic used when Germany invaded Poland for fuck’s sake. These dipshit aren’t even original
Or we could legalize drugs 'n shit and completely tank demand for cartel goods.
But nah they’d rather go full Russia on Mexico.
Cuntservatives want an enemy they can whine about during election cycles, they don’t want to solve the problem, they want to make the problem worse and worse until they get the excuse to declare martial law.
Certain drugs like meth are actually harmful.
Yes but if the government was able to provide a source of clean/safe drugs for addicts and help them break addiction the correct way with therapy and support instead of punitive prison… then maybe we’d have fewer addicts and therefore no cartel business
Agreed. People are harming themselves with drugs and what does the government do? Make it worse by putting you in prison and making it much harder for you to get job in the future and get back to a normal life.
No doubt, but also focusing on treatment and preventative measures like UBE and actual mental health care would massively reduce demand as well.
Not as harmful as 40 years of destroying families and lives over dictating what we as adults are allowed to put in our body.
Also: Alcohol is a LOT worse than meth, harm-wise. Long AND short term.
I’m not advocating meth, that shit will addict you first hit and send your life into a spiral.
But most ‘meth damage’ comes from a complete abandonment of personal hygiene and squalid living conditions, not the drug itself. I mean there’s dirty meth that has additives that can fuck you up but chemically clean meth is pretty benign.
Mark… how did that work for you the last time?
That’s right… you fell down and broke your Alamo.
Member when George Bush shut down the border completely and it only lasted 48 hrs before his phone was ringing off the hook with angry corporate farm owners???
I member.
