Another convenient excuse for the hand of the free market to limit supply and jack up prices even further…
I mean, if buttholes are shooting missiles at boats, I think we’re beyond “convenient excuses.” Do you want to captain a ship through there by chance?
Any legitimate situation will be taken to gouge prices far beyond their actual additional costs. So yes, it is a convenient excuse.
This is the truth. We’re now in a place where prices only ratchet up… All they need is a global event, and like beats of a drum, all of the megacorps raise prices in sync
No collusion, no competition, only prices go up
Did they sink any?
Did literally one person die?
People have died in pirate attacks before.
Recently, ships have been hit with missiles.
A lot more people could die if the attacks are not stopped or avoided.
sounds like they need to put some pep in their step stopping the ongoing genocide then
You realize it’s just an excuse for them to attack, right?
man i wish there were some way to test that theory
maybe we could do sort of a ‘stopping the ongoing genocide’ test run, see how they respond
and then keep it going indefinitely because genocide is bad
They flew in with a Palestinian flag on their helicopter. Their own flag say’s death to Israel and America; the nations doing the genocide and sponsoring the genocide. And all of this is after they just survived a genocide at the hands of the Saudi’s with US bombs and went on to win the war.
Maybe, just maybe, they mean what they say.
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Why would they attack international shipping if not to stop genocide?
There is no reason for them to do this aside from being the only people with enough morals to step up against Genocide Joe.
They are being directed to attack ships indiscriminately by Iran. If they wanted to fight genocide for real, a naval blockade without weapons would do the trick. This is just terrorism.
They’re firing fucking rockets at them, isn’t that bad enough?
To nearly double international shipping costs?
No, it’s not.
Lmao.
Insurance costs for sailing through the red sea are a verifiable metric, and it actually costs at least an order of magnitude more than it used to.
Are you saying the insurers are part of an international cabal of deep state global elites who actually provide lower rates to transportation companies than they state, or somehow hand over those profits freely to Wal-Mart so they can double-dip on the price gouging…???
Like bruh you can criticize price gouging without falling head-over-heels into insane crackpot conspiracy theories. Missiles are being fired, ships have to divert south around Africa, shipping gets expensive, simple as.
They did actually hijack 1 ship and have kept it and it’s crew hostage, the Galaxy Leader. While there have been misses and successful interceptions, several ships have been damaged.
When you insure ships, you take notice of these kinds of things.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_involvement_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
Goddamnit, Doritos are already over $5 a bag! And I’m not sure they come from the Red Sea…
And corporations will certainly not use this convenient excuse to jack up their prices immediately, then keep them there after the crisis passes, right? Right?
They’re real good at raising prices. Not good at lowering them. Also good at claiming record profits every year while cutting workforces.
While blaming everything else for why they are cutting the workforce to increase profits even higher
The actual cost hit due to the Houthis was 1.7%
Yeah this isn’t gonna go on much longer without a military response, which I am guessing is the plan. Keep spreading the US and allied countries’ military attention thinner and thinner.
the other option is to comply with the Houthi demands that the starvation of the people of Gaza be ended and supplies be allowed in accordance with the International Laws
Even if America succeeds in mobilising the entire world, our military operations will not stop … no matter the sacrifices it costs us,” Mohammed al-Bukhaiti, a senior Houthi official, said…
Some of you will die but that’s a risk I’m willing to take.
I mean, I think they’d call that an honorable death in some circles.
Don’t they see the US as basically the Empire?
George Lucas certainly did. The Vietnam War was part of the inspiration for Star Wars.
I see the level of political discourse in this sub has risen to the level of :checks notes: Star Wars references.
No doubt that is why there have been muted responses to attacks - it would look really bad to the world.
They also demand a grab bag of other random extremist taking points like that the Quran should be how countries are run, and that the prophets descendents have an absolute right to rule.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2017/12/21/the-houthis-endgame-in-yemen/
Thats just their general movement. Not their explicit demands for the blockade.
Because they’re so trustworthy? There’s no clear connection from ships being targeted to Israel like they claim.
Did you somehow miss the video Ansar Allah released of seizing the glalxy leader? Did you miss the big Palestinian flag on the back of the helicopter? Did you miss the Yemeni operator announcing why they are seizing the ship?
Like what are you trying to suggest Ansar Allah’s alternative motives are? Simple piracy? They’ve only captured one ship and are mostly scaring others off. Seems like bad tactics for piracy but good blockade tactics.
Galaxy Leader is owned by a company co-owned by an Israeli. They said any connection to Israel will get you attacked. I’m sure theres more tenous connections. But I also dont really care. They can shut down the Red Sea entirely for all I care. Getting all nitpicky on how someone is trying to stop a genocide is in service of the genocide. If you dont like what Ansar Allah is doing you can call your rep and tell them to stop sponsoring genocide. Have some fucking priorities.
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Every major country is affected by this. India and China have as much interest in free passage through the Red See as the US or the EU.
And yet China, who has a naval base in Djibouti, seems to just be sitting back and letting everyone else tackle this
Bingo. They know that someone else will do something eventually is my guess.
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I don’t know, maybe because they are directly affected by closing a major trade route with one of their largest trading blocks.
Of course they could always sit on their hands, make rude noises and let the US carry their weight… Which is what most of the world expects nowadays.
And they can just hike their prices like everyone else is doing. So why invest time and resources into lowering them back down if it doesn’t affect them?
China is mostly self-sufficient, most of the world is not.
China imports huge quantities of food and fuel. They are far from self sufficient.
Operation Prosperity Guardian is already underway. Unfourtuantly, modern drone technology tilts the scales in favor of the attacker in this sort of situation relative to where it was a decade ago; and commercial shipping companies are not in the bussiness of shipping through active combat zones.
NATO has so many resources, it’s the entire purpose of NATO.
Saying the resources are being spread thinner is a undebatable fact but I would say not every military/country in NATO had even CLOSE to 100% of people working on Ukraine before Israel piped up.
NATO can handle a lot more of this shit
They did a good job of spreading themselves thin. Gotta justify that $800+ billion spending.
Guaranteeing free movement is one of the reasons we have a large military.
Navy helicopter shot down a couple of boats a few days ago, but the response will probably grow.
Yeah I mean more of an attack on land actually in Yemen situation or even potentially boots on the ground and not just some sort of cruise missile or air strike.
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Yeah, or the US just invades Yemen with global support, triggering the regional crisis Iran wanted.
None of the regional powers actually care about Palestine outside of using it as a convenient political excuse.
Some of the governments of various regional powers may not care. However the Palestinian cause has massive popular support.
In Yemen I think it’s both. The Yemeni people were starved and bombed by the Saudis with lots of US support. It shouldn’t be surprising to anyone that they feel a deep sympathy for what Palestinians are going through.
The US will lose to the Houthis faster than they did to the Taliban. The Houthis are far better soldiers than the Taliban an have already been dodging US made bombs for a decade.
But hey, maybe it’ll stabilize Red Sea trade long enough for the Zionists to complete their genocide.
There won’t be any goal to police Yemen afterward, which is where the US “lost” (and I’m using that word loosely).
What’s so loose about surrendering Afghanistan back to the Taliban?
So what will the goal be in Yemen theb? Just bomb them enough that they can’t threaten shipping? The Saudi’s bombed them for almost a decade. Or are we gonna put “boots on the ground” and occupy Yemen until Israel is done with its genocide? I dont think thats going to work well. Maybe we’ll sponsor the Islamic State to do it for us?
The Houthis do this because Iran tells them to. WTF. Can’t believe you’re white-knighting this.
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Maybe the Houthi’s just take their slogan literally and have their own motivations? Everyone’s got to be a puppet though. Is Israel doing a genocide because the US told them to?
Two generations are about to learn why America has such a large Navy
Didn’t expect to see pro-violent Islamic terrorism opinions when I logged into lemmy this morning but here you are
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Really? What’s the Houthi movement slogan then?
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The way you avoid the question tells me that you know you’re in the wrong. I hope you sleep well with your shocking lack of morals!
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Keep dancing I’m sure you’ll feel better
Yemen is enforcing a blockade against a genocidal criminal state. Someone else is playing world police and the US can’t stand that.
I don’t know how you don’t see the difference between a political action like a blockade and actual violent Islamic terrorism. There seems to be a disconnect there. The blockade should be praised as a good thing when compared with all the other terrible actions that could’ve been chosen instead.
The funny bit is that the guys he describes as “terrorists” are the ones doing a blockade to try to stop support from some international powers like the US for the XXI century Nazis who are doing their very own final solution on a people of a different etnicity in a ghetto created and militarilly controlled by those same Nazis.
In other words, he’s claiming the people who actually have the highest moral ground in the greatest genocide of the XXI century (so far) are “terrorists”.
Still, it makes sense that the kind of racist who thinks everybody in that region who follows Islam is a terrorist would be even more enraged that said “terrorists” are trying to stop actual material support for the Genocide being done by the XXI century Nazis who are mass murdering a different etnicity they deem to be “human animals”.
Thank you for only punching me in the face sir.
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You need to be quite the Nazi-lover to claim the 10,000 Palestinian children murdered so far by the guys who claim the entire etnic group they belong to are “human animals”, were Hamas.
Seems like they’re siding with the lesser evil.
I wonder if ships will face issue caused by Cape Horn since they’ll have to go by that route.
Things are starting to sound like the book
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_World_Is_Just_the_Beginning
which goes into a speculated deglobalization timeline with pretty detailed rhetoric.
People are down voting you due to the link name without actually reading it, in the future if you have links like that, it may be helpful to use a hidden link/named link like this to weed out the people who didn’t actually click on it. They just see a “end of the world” link and down vote. The link you posted summerises the overall preface quite well, The issue is a global issue, more then just the US is effected by this embargo. I’m against military involvement but, I also think that’s the only way to preserve the routes due to neither side being willing to even talk.
Doomer nonsense.
You should read it. Pretty much no one understands how the current state of international affairs has been maintained by global trade. The U.S. Navy protects all global trade. Not just trade to and from the U.S., but obviously it’s not a popular domestic position and it doesn’t make much sense for the U.S. to continue anyway. There’s winners and losers, but mostly losers
The book is about the US backing off from protecting global trade and what happens afterword. Such is the core thing holding up our current globalized trading system.
It isn’t about everyone dying or some shit (“Doomerism”), it is about geopolitics.
Ok have fun with your blockade thing.
