It’s Time to Ditch Evernote for One of These Alternatives::undefined

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    8 months ago

    It was time to ditch Evernote YEARS ago. Obsidian is basically the best alternative.

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        8 months ago

        I’ve been using obsidian-livesync for a couple months now. Works great cross-platform since it runs directly out of my Vault and doesn’t cost $8/mo. Mine is running on fly.io right now but I may eventually move it to my own machine. https://github.com/vrtmrz/obsidian-livesync/

        I can’t help feeling like Obsidian really missed the mark on their pricing here for hobbyist & home users. I can’t justify paying substantially more than something like iCloud or Google Drive storage when I’m using Obsidian to just sync some text and a few documentation images. Something like $1-2/mo would have been an instant buy for me, but at $8 it was worth my time to investigate other ways of syncing.

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          8 months ago

          Don’t tell them that. I’ve been saying the same thing for ages and I get slammed by their community for it.

          I don’t get it. Imas you say it’s really missed the mark on pricing. I’d gladly pay for a sync option. But 8€\month? Eff offfff. I have like 500MB of data. I know that’s not everyone’s case but. Is there not some tier? Cripes

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            8 months ago

            Honestly, I have the same complaint about remote viewing companies like ScreenConnect and TeamViewer. I really like SC and use it within my organization. However, to get more than 3-devices, with sound, and screen blackout, it’s way more. Same with monitoring software like Pulseway.

            I just want to help my tech-illiterate family with their computer problems, and make sure their machines are up to date and working well!

      • Dhrystone@infosec.pub
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        8 months ago

        It’s completely local if you want, and you absolutely don’t need to pay money for syncing. The entire app is absolutely free and fully functional. If you want free syncing you can either use iCloud, or else the RemotelySave plugin with something like Syncthing or Duplicati.

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        8 months ago

        Syncthing is foss software I use for that, they don’t try in anyway to hinder you syncing using third party. Their paid option is just how they monetize

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        8 months ago

        I use synching to sync all my notes across different devices. It has been working well for me so far.

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          8 months ago

          Same here. Do you exclude any plugin files or workspace folders? If so, how can I do that. My Android version of Obsidian makes lots of conflicts.

  • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Obsidian is a godsend. The sheer number of plugins gives you basically anything you could want.

    It not being open-source is pretty much my only complaint lol

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      8 months ago

      I’m really sad that they’ve confirmed they aren’t interested in open source for Obsidian either :(

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      No good way to use it across multiple devices is my deal breaker for obsidian.

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        8 months ago

        I’ve been using Syncthing for this purpose. My notes are synced between a desktop, laptop, Android phone, and Android tablet. It took me forever to finally take the time to try Syncthing, and it’s been nearly flawless.

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        8 months ago

        You need Obsidian sync for that. It works awesome. It’s not free.

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      One question I have - is it able to be stored in plaintext, meaning I could version control it with git to share with a team? I wouldn’t be interested in security in that case, just the ability to keep notes collaboratively without having to pay for a locked proprietary hosting solution.

      That’s the big criteria I had last time I looked into this and I didn’t find anything. I don’t know why I missed joplin, but I don’t remember seeing it.

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        I could see myself implementing that via API calls into the app to write my own git repo out of the data. Not sure if joplinapp or any of these apps have APIs, but I would hope so.

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        You can sync in a bunch of different ways that you don’t have to pay for, but I’m not sure about git. I’ve used Nextcloud, OneDrive and syncthing. You can even host your own Joplin based server, might be docker only, I haven’t tested it yet.

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      8 months ago

      what’s not to like? Poor ui, bad syncing. Good software, not perfect.

  • AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I’ve switched to Joplin which I sync with my Nextcloud server.

    OneNote is also good, if you’re already in the Microsoft ecosystem.

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      If you’re in the MS ecosystem then OneDrive supports application syncing as a thing and so does Joplin including on its mobile clients. It’s basically free seemless cloud syncing once you set it up.

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        You’re also giving all of your data over to Microsoft, including to be scanned and fed into their AI models.

        That’s a trade-off that many won’t mind making, but everyone should informed of before making their decision.

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      8 months ago

      I use OneNote a lot with hand-written notes (on a Surface Pro). And I think it is an excellent piece of software… but I’m highly uncomfortable about vendor lock-in, and about over-sharing data with Microsoft (or any mega-corp).

      Over recent years, Microsoft have been pushing harder and harder into their data sharing stuff to the point where some features that have nothing whatsoever to do with online data are still disabled unless you enable ‘online connected experiences’. So it’s probably a good time to get out of that ecosystem rather than into it.

      I like Joplin; but the main reason I use OneNote is to write and draw on it with a stylus. So until Joplin has full stylus support, it’s hard for me to completely switch over to it without completely changing how I make notes.

      • AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I also take a lot of handwritten notes but disliked the hand writing UI on Onenote, I’m using Goodnotes for this.

        It would be great to have all my notes in one system but I don’t mind that much. Goodnotes has good OCR so I can search my notes.

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    I boost Joplin on here every chance I get, so please allow me to do so again now! I run it with my own sync server and a small userbase of about 6 people on a cheap VPS. I could not be happier; between the webclipper, sharing, encryption, embedding of pdfs, photos, even mp4s, ease of selfhosting, it’s an amazing project! It’s been (knock on wood) rock solid!

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      8 months ago

      Sounds like it is a bit advanced and technical for me…all I want is something I can make a list on android and my partner can edit it on iOS. Can it do that?

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        Yeah, it can do that. There are Android and iOS apps (as well as desktop). It has list creation in one click. General notes are technically formatted in markdown behind the scenes, and some users like to write the notes directly in markdown, but Joplin’s default view is a “rich text editor” mode which hides all that stuff away and uses familiar word processor type controls.

        Depending on your chosen cloud host (you can pick any you like) it can sometimes be a little fiddly to do the initial setup, but I think the default “Joplin Cloud” option is pretty straightforward.

        I use Joplin, and can heartily recommend it, although there are plenty of alternative options out there too.

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        Yep! As the other commenter who replies to you said, it definitely can. You don’t even have to selfhost it; the app’s developer hosts a cloud sync server you can pay for thays dirt cheap. You can also sync notes without the cloud server. There are a lot of ways you can use it without having to get into the technical aspect of it!

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      8 months ago

      I still wish it could render rich text and pdfs/attachments in the composition window, but other than that (and lack of native ocr) it’s been a perfect EN replacement for my uses.

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    8 months ago

    Lots of mentions for Obsidian. I’ll throw in my favorite for the past few years that’s similar: Logseq! Check it out!

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    8 months ago

    They list Notion, but IMO Obsidian is the better path. Lack of offline access to data is a big risk to using Notion, and what made me switch to Obsidian after being bit by internet access issues keeping me from being able to use my notes during a critical meeting. Hard no for Notion ever since.

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      That depends. If Notion goes down that’s a problem. If you can’t access Notion because YOUR internet is down, I don’t see you being productive at all. The issue is moot as Notion syncs everything locally, so you can access your latest notes. You just can’t push any changes to the cloud until you have internet again.

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        The notes being sync’d locally is exactly what would have allowed me to remain productive for that meeting. It sounds like Notion has this ability today, which is good to hear. In this example local access wasn’t yet an option. This was a few years ago though, and I’ll stop bringing this up as a gap since it no longer applies.

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      8 months ago

      Looks like Windows 10 version of OneNote. I use OneNote daily.

      • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I used Evernote religiously five years ago. But I left it for OneNote as well. No issues since.

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        8 months ago

        Trillium lets you run arbitrary JavaScript, plugging into their APIs. It lets you do some cool stuff that you otherwise couldn’t with OneNote. If you do need something more powerful than OneNote, and admittedly most people don’t, I’d recommend downloading trillium and checking out the sample JS code that the developer wrote.

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    8 months ago

    I was pretty happy with EverNote until it started to feel like they were ransoming my content against sudden price hikes and enshittifying reductions in basic function Fk those guys

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    8 months ago

    Who is still using Evernote in 2023? Everyone I know is using either Notion or Google Keep.

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      6 months ago

      It is kinda hard to move on when you have hundreds of notes you know… I still haven’t moved, but I have been using Obsidian only locally for so long.

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      I am but I have less than 50 notes and I like the cloud sync feature for 2 devices.

      I’ve exported my notes and imported them into Obsidian but it lacks the cloud sync and up to 2 devices, for free anyway.

      Never heard of Notion but I’ll give that a shot. Thanks!

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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      you do not know any sane ppl it seems.

      they are not using google keep, they are just too dumb to make decisions for another app or use notion because the other mamals in the herd use it. don’t be like that. help them evolve into proper humans.

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    I really love Obsidian. It is a perfect fit for my needs. I just hope they don’t do the creeping subscription bullshit like Evernote did. The $96 a year is reasonable for those who need it (I don’t need it).

    Crossing my fingers that the usual greed doesn’t give them brain rot. I probably should have gone with Joplin, but I’m too invested in Obsidian at this point (and very happy with it). I guess if they do go over to the Dark Side, I could freeze it at the last good release for a while then switch.

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      I just save my notes to a network location (could be icloud, dropbox, gdrive etc.) which is a much cheaper (free) way to sync notes – love Obsidian

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      You’re probably fine for a while. My bet is that obsidian’s really happy with all the free advertising evernote’s been giving it

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        Even better, Obsidian notes are stored directly in folders on your device as plain text (markdown) files.
        It’s all there, nothing missing, and no annoying proprietary format.

        Not only can you keep using them without the Obsidian application, you can even do so using a “dumb” text editor - though something that can handle markdown will give you a better experience.

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    I’m giving Obsidian a try and I’m liking it, but I still use freebie Notion for a lot of work things.

    I do ~6-12 month contracts, and have found that publishing notion pages is a really easy way to share stuff quickly with the team and keep it live-update-able by all parties. That feature suits some fast-paced environment needs.

    I never really used evernote tho. I think i first tried it years ago before they allowed dark mode, so it automatically failed.

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      My only real complaint with Obsidian is the lack of cloud service functionality. I understand why, (because it would directly compete with their paid cloud service) but it’s just another subscription to pay. I’d happily pay a one-time fee to be able to use my own cloud service like Google Drive, OneDrive, or iCloud. But everything is Software as a Service these days, so lifetime purchases are getting more and more rare.

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        If you really want, you can use almost any cloud-based solution that allows you to sync folders, with some caveats.

        I use Obsidian with my Google Drive; it took me about 5 minutes to set up, and it works like a charm now. However, you need to set it up on every device you plan on using for synchronization. Also, you cannot work on the same document on two devices simultaneously. Otherwise, it works as you’d expect.

        It’s definitely messier than the Obsidian cloud, but for my needs, syncing it via Google Drive is more than enough.

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        Unless I misunderstood “cloud service functionality”, an Obsidian vault can be placed almost anywhere on the file system. For instance, a remote/WebDAV drive or even the Dropbox/iCloud Drive/Google Drive directory.

        Migrating is as easy as moving the vault directory from one location to another, and pointing Obsidian to it.

        As always, on iOS, there are some caveats as it lacks a traditional file system. So, the Obsidian app cannot access the vault directory on, say your Dropbox. But there are workarounds for it, like hosting the vault on a remote Git repository - which is what I ended up doing. Of course, this is a non-issue on Android.

        Obsidian has a help page that goes in detail about what I just said.

        As for the Git repository workaround, I referred to this article to arrive at my current workflow.

        As an aside, I would like to touch upon my experience with using the inbuilt sync on apps like Agenda and Joplin - both offering syncing using iCloud and Dropbox while the latter offering a whole lot more. It is a flaky experience at best, wherein a significant number of notes never really sync between the devices. This forces me to use my phone to view a particular note while my computer for another. This is where the plain text file foundation for apps like Obsidian and Logseq wins me over.

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        I’d happily pay a one-time fee to be able to use my own cloud service like Google Drive, OneDrive, or iCloud.

        You can do that without paying. Obsidian vaults are just plaintext files on your disk. Just make a vault in your GDrive/OneDrive/iCloud sync folder and it’ll be synced.

        There’s likely a extra hoop or two to jump through if you want mobile access, but it’s not too much extra effort.

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        There’s a custom extension to sync Obsidian with a Git repository if you’re familiar with that. Let’s you sync up your notes as long as you have an Internet connection and access to whatever source control you use.

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        Syncthing-ing the vault works for me. P2p instead of cloud.

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        I’ve been trying it out for the last week or so as well looking to replace OneNote and this is the only issue I’m having with it too. I have it in my Nextcloud and can view notes on my devices but not create/edit them (I believe this is due to a permission issue with Nextcloud but haven’t been able to dig too far into it yet). Other than that issue I love it so far.

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    Don’t go to Notability. They went full asshole at the top of this last semester. Changed the entire interface as people were starting their first week of class. They nuked features that made note taking for class nice. They clearly don’t respect their users and will most likely do the same thing again.

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    This dumbass article is about 8 years too late. I ditched it back when they cancelled all free accounts and deleted everyone data who didn’t pay. Fuck Evernote

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        Recently? They basically killed my free account yesterday. You can only have about 50ish notes now for free and 1 notebook

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      Same, and I was a paying customer.

      If you change your business model that much and cut out all free, that’s a serious red flag.