• Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    ~70%of Americans want a cease fire. Another nail in the democracy coffin. Same thing in Canada less the veto. Our governments are beating to a different drum that is not the voice of the people they supposedly represent.

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        11 months ago

        In before the “Um AkShUaLlY iT’s A rEpUbLiC nOt A dEmOcRaCy” drones that know what neither a democracy or a Republic is.

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      11 months ago

      Where are you getting this 70% number from? Did they do a national vote on the topic? Or maybe it’s just a pulling number you read somewhere and now parrot without source.

      Hardly a nail in any coffin. This is exactly how representative democracy works. You vote for someone to represent you in the government. Those someone’s collaborate to the best of their ability to make policies and decisions. Don’t like their policies and decisions. Vote for someone else.

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      Correction. 70% of people no doubt prefer, in a very abstract way, that Israelis and Palestinians weren’t killing each other. Because innocent civilians dying is bad. But 99% of people don’t “want” a ceasefire if it involves even the slightest amount of effort or concession or cost on their part, nor do they want to dive into the complexities of the Middle East. The quality of that “want” is very, very low. It is more of an abstract preference, really.

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        11 months ago

        Where did you get that 90% figure. Not going to disagree though as it is likely correct but the reality is it is already costing Americans money to not have a ceasefire so unsure your point.

        There are lots and lots of polls about Americans wanting a cease fire which range in % but all around 70%. +- 10.

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          11 months ago

          Americans in general have next to no understanding of how aid and funding works, so any poll taken about providing aid or funding is inherently worthless.

          People are stupid. That’s why they vote for shit like Trump, Brexit, and cutting military aid to allies.

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          11 months ago

          Obviously I made up the 99% figure as a rhetorical device mirroring the earlier 70% figure as a way of inserting my opinion about the nature of the 70% figure.

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          11 months ago

          That is the saying. Sailing to weather in a stiff breeze for any significant length of time is often unpleasant, unless one is racing. It’s hard on the boat, too. After a while, one learns to sail with the wind whenever possible rather than fight nature.