These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

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    NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.

    The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.

    I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.

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      Nah, we’re gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won’t be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.

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          Stagnant wages, weakened unions, at-will employment, low corporate taxes, etc. All Reaganomics. Supply side economics. Basically destroyed the economic powerhouse that won the Cold War. It’s still a goliath, but instead of an immovable industrial bullwark its all debt driven gambling now. Speculation and financialization.

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            And who moved shit to China so it’s now much worse? Bill Clinton.

            And now not even US/EU cars are competitive anymore. Boeing is in decline. Intel is dying.
            Go into any store - nothing made in US anymore.

            Accept responsibility - it’s a Democrat bill Clinton doing

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      America as we know it, may be over

      Stop. I can only get so hard

      The war in Ukraine is about to end

      Damn, if only we had listened to the people calling for a negotiated peace since the first moment instead of calling them Putin bots…

      NATO might disband

      As a western European, I fucking wish, but you’re too hopeful for that. NATO is exclusively a force for evil, and the only interventions that it’s carried out are the bombing of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Libya, the latter resulting in a decade of civil wars that destroyed the formerly most prosperous country in Africa. Extraofficially (not technically NATO), also the invasion of Iraq. How is literally any of that good.

      100 years of authoritarianism

      The US has never been anything different from that. It’s based on the genocide of natives, on slavery of imported Africans, and the decisions made at the government are consistently against the will and the interests of the majority.

      Down with the US empire

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      I like the part about Ukraine. Also don’t care about Taiwan.
      But kinda wish democracy maintains in us.

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        You won’t care about Taiwan until your iPhone costs $3000, then you might realize it was worth defending

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          Most American comment, talk about the end of democracy for millions of people and death of thousands, worry about the price of their iphone

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            They’ve been trying to move chip fabricators to the US for decades. The education system is shit here and we don’t have the talent. Also it’s really difficult to get the fabricators right and built for a reasonable cost. So yeah. Your non-iphone is gonna be pricey.

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                Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?

                Pepperidge Farm remembers. Show me a working fab as a result of that act after Trump and Co manage to not fuck it up and then your comment might have some merit. Note: the coming brain drain will not be kind to the USA.

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                  Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?

                  me too, i also remember in 1930, when the great depression happened. I don’t see the relevance here though.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Impact

                  shit in r&d is not like throwing money at big corpo and hoping they do what you want. If you don’t turn out results in r&d, it’s a dead field.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Project_announcements

                  plenty of project announcements, idk if you think the government can’t like, build buildings or something, even though they can make the interstate highway system. But in defense of the CHIPS, building fabs is really fucking hard, costs billions of dollars, and takes many, many years.

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                    Which of those projects will be ready by the time China invades Taiwan in early 2025? And how will those factories absorb all the global orders for chips when they’re not ready?

                    You are agreeing with me. Fabs are hard. Our people are stupid. Their people are smart. If their people are tied up in a war and dying, and their fabs are destroyed, and our fabs are half built and the Trump admin never holds them accountable and they take the money and run or fuck it up since there’s no oversight because DeReGuLaTiOn, how exactly does that make a difference as to whether the government is trying to build fabs? If they’re functionally not prepared to absorb the global demand created by WW3, then where will America get its chips? Electing Trump is literally a national security concern at this point.

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                The CHIPS act? You mean one of the things the Biden admin bragged about?

                Good thing the incoming administration isn’t petty enough to nuke anything associated with the previous administration…

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                  You mean one of the things the Biden admin bragged about?

                  yeah.

                  Good thing the incoming administration isn’t petty enough to nuke anything associated with the previous administration…

                  that would be unfortunate.