Chinese women have been sharing their experiences receiving phone calls from government workers and officials, during which they are asked invasive questions about family planning and whether or not they are pregnant.
This was mostly created by the one child policy that ran from 1979-2016, coupled with male child preference. In China, a male child is responsible for taking care of his own parents, while females are responsible for caring for their in-laws.
In large part yes, but younger generations are also not especially motivated to have kids when they already have to deal with a soul-crushing workplace (much worse than in the west).
There is one mega-union (the only permitted one) with officials appointed by the CCP. It’s essentially a sham, like the non-CCP parties in Congress that are nominally a type of opposition but can never hold any real power.
And yes, it is ironic and sad. Nordic countries are more communist than China is. China doesn’t even have truly free healthcare like Canada etc.
Chinese Unions are a joke, it is common practice that union preventatives would trying to convince you to be more understanding of your boss.
It’s a well known joke that the only reason Chinese Union exists is to prevent real unions to form (you want a worker union? but we already have one, go talk to them).
At this point the culture had shifted to not value large families and so few even think it is possible while not having kids seems like a valid option. It takes years to shift this even with an effort to encourage kids.
Its’ so bad that they stopped publishing unemployment rate few years back, there are many talks of university students where they have to fill form about their future plans and whether they already received job offers, the teachers would encourage them to open a online store and fill the form as store owner/self employed.
Makes me wonder whether they’re expecting to lose a significant number of young men for some reason over the next few years as well. Gotta start planning for replacements early.
Honestly I don’t think that is necessary to explain this. China is seeing the same issue as western countries with birth rates way below replacement, but it hardly has any of the immigration that mitigates it for (most of) Europe and North America. It’s not easy for an economy to support an ever-increasing proportion of its population being retirees
Gonna leave this here from a reply I made to a similar thread weeks ago. China’s demographics are in very bad shape.
This was mostly created by the one child policy that ran from 1979-2016, coupled with male child preference. In China, a male child is responsible for taking care of his own parents, while females are responsible for caring for their in-laws.
In large part yes, but younger generations are also not especially motivated to have kids when they already have to deal with a soul-crushing workplace (much worse than in the west).
Oh God really? My work is already pretty soul crushing, I couldn’t imagine
Yeah, it’s bad. There are fewer worker protections and unions are illegal.
Unions are illegal in a Communist state? That’s hilariously ironic and sad.
There is one mega-union (the only permitted one) with officials appointed by the CCP. It’s essentially a sham, like the non-CCP parties in Congress that are nominally a type of opposition but can never hold any real power.
And yes, it is ironic and sad. Nordic countries are more communist than China is. China doesn’t even have truly free healthcare like Canada etc.
You see, it’s not communism, but communism with Chinese ideals (therefore whatever the heck the CCP wants it to be)
It’s not communist, it’s just a nazi state with a different name.
All the rest applies, the racial bits, the cruelty and genocide, all of it.
No, I lie, the nazis didn’t execute nearly as many of their own people, nor did they restrict reproduction in the same way.
Chinese Unions are a joke, it is common practice that union preventatives would trying to convince you to be more understanding of your boss.
It’s a well known joke that the only reason Chinese Union exists is to prevent real unions to form (you want a worker union? but we already have one, go talk to them).
10x worse, you work 12 hours min and you work Saturdays, plus the boss is a lot more… Personally cruel than they are here.
The famous 996, they have this work culture from 9 AM to 9 PM, 6 days a week. Good luck having any power left after such a week.
I thought that was Japan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system
If it was just that, surely there’d be a rebound visible on the chart after 2016 (8-year-olds and younger)? Instead it falls off even harder
At this point the culture had shifted to not value large families and so few even think it is possible while not having kids seems like a valid option. It takes years to shift this even with an effort to encourage kids.
Not making your society a dystopian hellscape might help.
They can’t get married till they have a house, and there are problems there…
They also have a level of youth unemployment above 20%. Between a fifth and a quarter of those Zoomers are unemployed.
Its’ so bad that they stopped publishing unemployment rate few years back, there are many talks of university students where they have to fill form about their future plans and whether they already received job offers, the teachers would encourage them to open a online store and fill the form as store owner/self employed.
It’s so bad they revised how they were measuring it to make it look better.
And then it continued to go up anyway
They invented a new term “negative growth” so they won’t have to use “decline”.
Makes me wonder whether they’re expecting to lose a significant number of young men for some reason over the next few years as well. Gotta start planning for replacements early.
Honestly I don’t think that is necessary to explain this. China is seeing the same issue as western countries with birth rates way below replacement, but it hardly has any of the immigration that mitigates it for (most of) Europe and North America. It’s not easy for an economy to support an ever-increasing proportion of its population being retirees
There’s a great argument for triads here
Surplus of young single men?
They’re referring to relationships between 3 people
Are you sure they aren’t talking about the illegal Chinese mafia? The Triads.