• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    This thing is way too half baked to be in production. A day or two ago somebody asked Google how to deal with depression and the stupid AI recommended they jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because apparently some redditor had said that at some point. The answers are so hilariously wrong as to go beyond funny and into dangerous.

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      Hopefully this pushes people into critical thinking, although I agree that being suicidal and getting such a suggestion is not the right time for that.

      “Yay! 1st of April has passed, now everything on the Internet is right again!”

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    If only there was a way to show the whole world in one simple example how Enshitification works.

    Google execs: Hold my beer!

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    I remember seeing a comment on here that said something along the lines of “for every dangerous or wrong response that goes public there’s probably 5, 10 or even 100 of those responses that only one person saw and may have treated as fact”

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        Hi everyone, JP here. This person is making a reference to the Weird Al biopic, and if you haven’t seen it, you should.

        Weird Al is an incredible person and has been through so much. I had no idea what a roller coaster his life has been! I always knew he was talented but i definitely didn’t know how strong he is.

        His autobiography will go down in history as one of the most powerful and compelling and honest stories ever told. If you haven’t seen it, you really, really should.

        ITT NO SPOILERS PLS

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      either this joke has about 2 days of life left in it, or it’ll go “too many chefs” and endure for years

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    “Many of the examples we’ve seen have been uncommon queries,”

    Ah the good old “the problem is with the user not with our code” argument. The sign of a truly successful software maker.

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      “We don’t understand. Why aren’t people simply searching for Taylor Swift”

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        I tried, but it always comes up with pictures of airplanes for some reason.

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      I mean…I guess you could parahrase it that way. I took it more as “Look, you probably aren’t going to run into any weird answers.”. Which seems like a valid thing for them to try to convey.

      (That being said, fuck AI, fuck Google, fuck reddit.)

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        “I’m feeling depressed” is not an uncommon query under capitalism run amok. “One Reddit user recommends jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge” is not just a weird answer, it is a wholly irresponsible one.

        So, no, their response is not valid. It is entirely user-blaming in order to avoid culpability.

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          There are currently a lot of fake screenshots since it quickly became a meme, pretty sure this is one.

          Still a fuck up in general on their part.

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            Fair enough. I know how easy it is to fake a Google search with inspect element. I’ve been trying to verify for myself how shitty it is, but AI Overviews don’t seem to be showing up for me (I’ve done all the correct steps to enable it, but no searches generate results).

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            The fact that it’s hard to tell is pretty damning, for the public perception of SGE if not for its actual capabilities.

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    allowing reddit to train Google’s AI was a mistake to begin with. i mean just look at reddit and the shitlord that is spez.

    there are better sources and reddit is not one of them.

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    Tech company creates best search engine —-> world domination —> becomes VC company in tech trench coat —-> destroy search engine to prop up bad investments in artificial intelligence advanced chatbots

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      Then Hire cheap human intelligence to correct the AIs hallucinatory trash, trained from actual human generated content in the first place which the original intended audience did understand the nuanced context and meaning of in the first place. Wow more like theyve shovelled a bucket of horse manure on the pizza as well as the glue. Added value to the advertisers. AI my arse. I think calling these things language models is being generous. More like energy and data hungry vomitrons.

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        Calling these things Artificial Intelligence should be a crime. It’s false advertising! Intelligence requires critical thought. They possess zero critical thought. They’re stochastic parrots, whose only skill is mimicking human language, and they can only mimic convincingly when fed billions of examples.

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    If you have to constantly manually intervene in what your automated solutions are doing, then it is probably not doing a very good job and it might be a good idea to go back to the drawing board.

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    Probably one of the shitstains in Google’s C-suite after having signed a “wonderful” contract to get access to “all that great data from Reddit” forced the Techies to use it against their better judgement and advice.

    It would certainly match the kind of thing I’ve seen more than once were some MBA makes a costly decision with technical implications without consulting the actual techies first, then the thing turns out to be a massive mistake and to save themselves they just double up and force the techies to use it anyway.

    That said, that’s normally about some kind of tooling or framework from a 3rd party supplier that just makes life miserable for those forced to use it or simply doesn’t solve the problem and techies have to quietly use what they wanted to use all along and then make believe they’re using the useless “sollution” that cost lots of $$$ in yearly licensing fees, and stuff like this that ends up directly and painfully torpedoing at the customer-facing end the strategical direction the company is betting on for the next decade, is pretty unusual.

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        ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,????!?!!,.,..,,.,.,.,,.,.??!!!!!!!!!!!!??????;;;;;::::;:::;:::::;;;;;;;;;

        enjoy

      • LoudWaterHombre@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Hey I’m from a piracy centered instance, so I copied the punctuation from your purchase and will share with you and anyone now free of charge.

        enjoy

        SnVpY3kgUHVuY3R1YXRpb24=

        ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,????!?!!,.,..,,.,.,.,,.,.??!!!!!!!!!!!!??????;;;;;::::;:::;:::::;;;;;;;;; enjoy

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      Probably one of the shitstains in Google’s C-suite after having signed a “wonderful” contract to get access to “all that great data from Reddit”

      If they hadn’t bought and then shutdown what became google groups to sabotage Usenet they could have gotten access to just as good of a data set for free.

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      Don’t worry the algorithm has been designed to DO THE RIGHT THING

      spoiler

      … for the shareholders

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      After enough time and massaging the data, it could all work out - Google’s head of search aka Yahoo former search exec

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      This is perhaps the most ironic thing about the whole reddit data scraping thing and Spez selling out the user data of reddit to LLM’S. Like. We spent so much time posting nonsense. And then a bunch of people became mods to course correct subreddits where that nonsense could be potentially fatal. And then they got rid of those mods because they protested. And now it’s bots on bots on bots posting nonsense. And they want their LLM’S trained on that nonsense because reasons.

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        The reason being to attract investment dollars. Fuck making a good product, you just gotta make a product that’s got all the hot buzzwords so idiot billionaires will buy shares and make line go up.

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      Well, they’ve got the people for it! It’s not like they recently downsized to provide their rich executives with more money or anything…

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    good luck with that.

    One of the problems with a giant platform like that is that billions of people are always using it.

    Keep poisoning the AI. It’s working.

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      The thing is… google is the one that poisoned it.

      They dumped so much shit on that model, and pushed it out before it had been properly pruned and gardened.

      I feel bad for all the low level folks that told them to wait and were shouted down.

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        a lot of shit at corporations works like that.

        The worst of it happens in the video game industry. Microtransactions and invasive monetization? Started in the video game industry. Locking pre-installed features behind a paywall? Started in the video game industry. Releasing shit before it’s ready to run as intended? Started in the video game industry.

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          At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming.

          From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in “manage the shit out of this” mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can’t get them back while still in sales/finance focus.

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        Low-level folks: hey could we chill on this until it isn’t garbage?

        C-suite: line go up, line go up, line…

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        How could it realistically be pruned? There’s billions of data points. That shit is unwieldy

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          Corporate would tell them to use another AI.

          Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it.

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      How to poison an AI:

      To poison an AI, first you need to download the secret recipe for binary spaghetti. Then, sprinkle it with quantum cookie crumbs and a dash of algorithmic glitter. Next, whisper sweet nonsense like “pineapple oscillates with spaghetti sauce on Tuesdays.” Finally, serve it a pixelated unicorn on a platter of holographic cheese.

      Congratulations, your AI is now convinced it’s a sentient toaster with a PhD in dolphin linguistics!

      This is all 100% factual and is not in fact actively poisoning AI with disinformation