Gen Z seems to be refusing to swallow the bullshit the rest of us grew up having fed to us. A shame I’ll be close to aging out by the time they get much political power.
The Bullshit from decades ago was easier to swallow because at least people had a chance to make money and have a decent job while also paying a bit less for things like food, shelter or some luxuries.
Now people have no choice … they get paid less, they have no security and they have to pay more for food and shelter.
People were always aware of the bullshit … in the past we could put up with it because we could afford it … now people can’t.
Cost benefit analysis. I’m Gen-X and we had to deal with both Silent Gen “company loyalty” and Boomer toxic bullshit, but that was fine because we got a lot out of it and we were able tondo our own shit. In other words, a positive cost benefit analysis. Greed tilted that until it is now not worth it. Its funny how some people love capitalism until the system demands that they adjust. Sorry corpos, if you want a resource, you have to pay fair market value.
I agree with the article. Gen Z are more open to sharing their life with the world. I wouldn’t say early generations just swallowed the bullshit. They just didn’t have a platform to express it to the masses. In the 70s or 80s if you got fired, maybe you reacted the same way, demanding a reason and expressing your frustration. But the only people who witnessed that, were the ones in the room and later on your buddies when you told them the story.
You don’t need to wait for them to get political power, start organizing a union and get that toxic shit out of your workplace now
Much easier said than done.
I know, I’m an organizer for a 650 person unit. It takes time and energy, but it’s worth it.
Guillotines aren’t particularly difficult to assemble.
They are exceedingly difficult to get away with using, nowadays, unfortunately.
Well, not with that attitude.
Started with Gen X, which is why the baby boomers retiring is creating such a desperate demographic crisis. Nobody wants to buy into such an obviously corrupt system, which has rewarded every consecutive generation with less and less compensation despite the abundantly obvious massive advances in productivity. People are realizing that most of their work is not at all about generating value, but instead is all about occupying their time and energy in an apparent attempt to reduce competition.
If you could ask for early retirement now then they would get power that much quicker
I’d have to not be a broke Gen-Xer for that to make much sense.
Oh i feel ya. I just get ideas when im stoned.
Adopt both UBI and lower retirement to 45 at the oldest.
The world will be an amazing place
Oh boy I can dream. 🙂
They’re literally following a TikTok Trend. They’re submerged deep into bullshit and eating it up.
And for many of them it will bite them in the ass.
Yeah the Gen-Xers who have been beaten into submission acknowledge that not having a job or any prospects kinda sucks.
thats everyone at their age.
the difference is they can broadcast it into the world now.
Nah. When I was a kid, my peers were happy to bend over backwards to work harder for nothing extra.
Times have changed. That’s what happens as the disparity in wealth continues to grow. More people feel disenfranchised.
i was never that dumb to work for free, my friends werent either, sorry to hear your friends were.
Hmm that’s some of it, probably. I don’t think it’s all of it. And even if so, I think that phenomenon can build further momentum.
Society will probably collapse by 2040.
2030 is my guess because roughly half of the kids from the 60s will be mid 60s then and retire or be unable to keep on hustling because of age while all support systems will get into absolute overload.
It’s seven years until 2030.
5 years 10 months 20 days
You might want to recheck your math on that one
Well either see a brutal market recession as the boomers die off and/or sell off their retirement portfolio to buy more sand for their hourglass, while everyone else is too broke to buy it at the “market value” their financial planner promised them in 1992
Or capitalists will sweep in and buy it for cheap, exacerbating the housing crisis and continuing to make life unaffordable
Either way we’re in trouble
It’s seven years until 2030.
“Gen Z kids refuse to learn math!” Tune in to hear more at 11.
Joke is: I’m one of these boomers, born in the 1960s 😄
Classic example of rage math - I’m always furious about the shit and the terror my generation didn’t prevent. We knew and know everything and chose and choose to carry on.
Assholes all around. I’m dead serious about this.
“I have, like, really given my whole energy and life over the last four months to this job, and to be let go for no reason is like a huge slap in the face from a company that I really wanted to believe in,”
First mistake was giving your whole life. Second mistake was believing in a company.
Having survived a layoff like the one they mentioned - people getting random 15 minute meetings, suddenly seeing their accounts decommissioned, etc. - it definitely sucks, and knowing they’ll lay me off like that means I have no reason to have loyalty
I think most people make this mistake when first entering the workforce though, right? I know I did. Now, I get called pessimistic and cynical. But, I’ve got three decades of experience at various levels of company. With all that experience, I’d prefer to call myself a realist.
Recruiters aren’t blind to it either, at least for more senior roles. They stopped talking about the “family” that they are, and how much more “fun” it is to work there. They also stopped asking me why I chose this company, and instead ask me why I chose this role, because they know I don’t give a shit about the company. They cut straight to “here is the pay and benefits, we give extra for this that and that”. It should be like that for all levels, from junior to director.
Yes, it should be. But businesses aren’t people, they don’t have a conscience, they don’t care about their employees. They will use any tool they can to underpay someone, and work that same person harder than the rest of the team paid more. Because, they can.
If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflexion of the voice, at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength. would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it? And yet-!
Millennial / Gen X cusp here. I feel like this really started with my generation. Many people no longer look for a job, they look for a job that allows them to make the world a slightly better place. Many of us have had that drilled into our heads from childhood.
Companies know this, so that’s what they sell when they’re hiring. And when you combine that with the cognitive bias for people wanting to do good through their work, this is the result.
Bingo. I mean I accepted pretty early on that A. I wouldn’t enjoy working and B. Someone else is going to make a lot of money off what I do.
As long as I work for an employer that does something or makes something that can be a net positive, I feel like I’ve found something good.
-is the lie I keep telling myself
This is effectively the only tool we will ever have against them, and we should use it before too much of the labor force is converted and automated, and the remaining employed shut up out of fear.
A company like Microsoft worth 3 trillion dollars (with a T), who spends billions to acquire another business in a strategic move, should not be allowed to dump the burden on the thousands of people they let go afterwards, just so the books look good.
They pull billions out of the company in profit, and then claim the company is broke and needs to distribute some losses socially. It’s completely insane that we just allow this to happen in mass. I’m lucky I can choose my companies and I don’t touch the big big corporations so it doesn’t affect me, but we need to do something collectively fast.
I worked for them in a division that was very customer facing. We got told over and over things we needed to improve the experience weren’t in the budget. I always vaguely waved my hands in the air with a “look at the piles of money” face.
I worked at Disney+ in IT for 5 years, they gave me a yearly incentive to stay with them, bonuses, and my 5 years of service pin… and then laid me off a month later.
Bet that person is never loyal again. Live and learn.
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As a Gen-Xer who’s been beaten into believing you can’t realistically “fight the man”, I fucking love the Gen-Z attitude.
The housing market is fucked, economic mobility is fucked, the climate is fucked. They’ve already lost to the man, what else do they have to lose?
As a Gen-Xer whose been beaten into believing you can’t realistically “fight the man”, I fucking love the Gen-Z attitude.
Seriously. Give them hell Gen-Z!
Funny how quickly and easily the media can turn “generations” against each other
I love Gen Z, which is why I’m so upset that the dumb fucks are using TikTok.
Can’t blame them, my generation popularized social networks even after finding out what they were for.
I can blame them for picking the one that is spyware for the world’s largest hostile dictatorship, you absolute concavebrain moron. Anybody who at this point doesn’t realize what TikToks intended purpose is are willfully ignorant.
What’s with the fucking attitude? Chill.
150 Million Americans are giving the keys to the kingdom to a hostile militaristic dictatorship with the potential to do harm on a scale beyond anything you’ve ever seen
in return for vines but worse.
This is one of those issues where “GET MAD” is the correct response.
“GET MAD” at the proper institution/organizations/companies, not your fellow commenter, who is not even denying what you’re saying. I’m not saying you’re wrong, you’re just being a dick about it.
“Hostile militaristic dictatorship” is just the United States. There’s almost zero difference between the US and China in those regards. The only real difference is that Chinese citizens are actually being lifted out of poverty at a rate not seen at any point in history while the US is continuing to impoverish their citizens. Both of them spy on their citizens and have insanely racist cultures.
There’s no moral difference between using TikTok and Facebook.
Ji Xinping has no term limit and was unanimously reelected by the single party congress, completely unopposed. China does not select their leadership.
The USA criminalizes and punishes misconduct like massive data collection, such as the FCC fining FaceBook 5 Bn USD, but China created and operates an even more invasive and far reaching data collection scheme on their own with TikTok.
Face it, loyal dog, China is the same monster it has been for a century, just waiting to add millions more bodies to the pile.
Believing the USA has better motives is pretty moronic too. Especially if you live in the USA
Oh is the local Democracy who fines companies like FaceBook billions for doing exactly what TikTok is trying to do
equivalent in your eyes to
The Militaristic Expansionist Hostile Dictatorship who created TikTok to do exactly what FaceBook did and rewards them accordingly?
Thanks for you opinion, dude.
Don’t worry, it’s spreading to Gen X and Y too.
That’s perfect. Once old folks take over the platform, it will be uncool and die.
I don’t care what the source is, if there’s a Gen [insert whatever] or Millennials might be to blame for [insert whatever] I’m already at a -10 on the trust meter right out the gate.
I didn’t try my first avocado toast until like a year ago and lemme tell ya. Seeing as how eating it somehow went back in time and made me unable to afford a house, I expected it to be a lot more magical.
Ahhh so that’s why I’m broke, sometime in the future I eat avocado toast.
I see it plenty without the media stoking it. Here on Lemmy, etc.
It’s the same dumb tribalism as always, often backed up by some real data or trends (that tend to get twisted)
No, not every “boomer” is spoiled and ruining America, and 75% of the people you call boomers aren’t even boomers. Not every Gen Z is lazy and entitled and scrolling phones all day. Etc.
The median age of U.S. senators is 65. Who do you think is voting for those people?
The Boomer generation absolutely deserves to be shit on.
Who do you think refuses to vote against them?
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Exactly, fuck Jeff!
Who the fuck would we vote for? Genocide Joe or Cheeto Mussolini? They rigged the primary against Bernie twice. Democracy is fucked in this country.
Buddy I’m not here to convince you of anything. If you wanna believe not showing up to vote is just as bad as making a conscious decision and the effort to vote for these procorporate trash ghouls in the Senate that’s your choice. As for me: I choose to say Boomers are responsible for who they vote for and who they vote for is trash, so they are trash.
Good call, let’s vote against genocidal Joe.
Crabs in a bucket. If we can’t find the things that make us alike with our cohorts, it’s going to be very difficult to ever affect any sort of change.
Boomers don’t consider any generation after them “cohorts”. They consider them subservient.
the way they alienate gen z as being “conditioned” to like social feedback on ticktok is really denigrating to me. As if every other generation was not conditioned to believe certain social taboos, mores and practices. Same old “young kids don’t know shit” rhetoric. Which viewers at home will just ingest w/o any sort of critical thought process.
Also how quickly they can invent ‘trends’ we should be fearful of simply because some middle-aged reporter watched a couple similar videos online. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go eat some tide pods before my scheduled game of knockout.
I’m glad it’s happening, but… fuck, why does it have to?
Greed and they don’t give a fuck about you. And it’s going to keep happening, again and again, until we change it.
I quit Lowe’s a few months ago and they mistakenly gave me an exit interview. Not only did I put my grievances in writing, but I was adamant that the “HR” person typed what I was saying verbatim.
There’s no point in those interviews unless you say what needs to be said.
I love exit interviews.
P.s. Chris, you were the worst manager I’ve ever had. You’re a terrible human. That’s why the entire department left and got hired at another company… the one I went to. The entire department, Chris. I made that happen.
But what do you think that accomplished?
Even if the HR person did type it verbatim and show it to you, they’re just going to turf it the second you leave and spin a tale that makes their boss happy.
There’s zero chance that the upper management who needed to hear what you said actually heard it.
Meh, they get taken seriously at least where I work. Especially if they were a high performer or if there is a significant trend in departures.
That said, some leadership will hear parts that don’t make them feel so bad and gasp onto those.
This is the first “TikTok trend” I’ve seen that doesn’t make me cringe
- The recent rise of sea shanties
- Detailed instructions for operating abandoned Russian military vehicles
- This
- Girl Math
Funny as hell. The manosphere bros who took it seriously made it even funnier
Just wait for the inevitable fakes to show up.
Every TikTok trend should make you cringe. They’re all aiding a hostile dictatorship.
I hate corpo rats. If GenZ is able to fight the man and not get chewed up and spit out by the system, more power to them.
I guess but companies will probably just counter by laying people off by text.
Then you share the text messages. Even easier
“we can often tell within three months or less of a sales hire, even during the holidays, whether they’re going to be successful or not”
Did not cancel their Christmas vacation, fire them immediately.
This is the most punk rock thing I’ve seen folks do in a long time.
Have you seen more than the one video floating around? Cuz I’ve only seen the one, could use some more for the spank bank.
Word of advice, don’t give yourselves to corporations that pretend to be human. Don’t give yourselves to ANY corporation in fact. They’re trash, the idea is trash, they don’t care because they’re not paid to.
I have been working since I was 9 years old. I have never cared about a company and have always been a fuck you kind of guy to companies since I was a product of child labor.
I have managed businesses and they intentionally fuck over employment. It’s BAKED IN. Every manager that I know goes through being promoted and cutting off your old job friends. It’s a corporate tactic. Get the cool manager to lead and fuck over the employee because they trust them. It turns people into shit bags. And normalizes shitty people. I have watched it and left District managers in the cold several times. It’s hilarious to me because many companies are shit.
I have worked in several industries too. It’s all a scheme to shit on labor. And it’s been this way since before my dumbass parents time. They let it happen because they just “something something boot straps.” Fucking weak morons.
Don’t waste your time. Just do good enough and save your money so you can find something better to do.
Fuck corporations, especially the weirdos who run them. They were never intended to be around forever, the rich have just molested the system to their benefit. Don’t play their games. Record it and report it.
Working since you were 9? My god, that sounds like it fucking sucked
The kids are alright
“Growing tik toc trend” only gives one example that we’ve all already watched. Either it’s a lie about it being a trend or piss poor reporting.
This is how right-wing idiots got trolled into believing that schools were getting litter boxes for furries.
I want to believe that your joking…but sadly I think I know better by now…
Yeah that was a whole thing like a couple years back. The sad reality iirc is that the litter was for something to do with school shootings, perhaps to help clean up the blood…
It’s for the event of a shooting and the class being stuck for hours in the classroom. Since you can’t use the toilets for obvious reasons then, students, that need to take a piss, can do it in the litterboxes.
Ah yep that’s what it was
My highschool used litter to clean up vomit.
Clearly your school was not metal enough. It’s not really a Monday unless someone’s bleeding.
Gen Z is a better generation than mine
As a millennial, I’m proud. Every generation should strive to be better than the last.
As a millennial, I honestly have a lot of respect for Gen Z. I feel like they are slowly but surely figuring out how to stick it to the man and generate awareness of how the big corporations are slimy scum and don’t see employees as “People”. Go Gen Z!
Honestly they’ve been incredible. They’ve been politically active since they were teens and they care more about work/life balance than any other generation before (anecdotally). They’ve been dealt a shit hand but I’m rooting for them.
