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    9 months ago

    The important part is to direct the anger towards the real enemy: the leeches sucking our planet dry and planning their escape off world. „Left“ and „Right“ are categories we were told to think in, along with buzzwords like „neoliberal“ and „woke“.

    As in the definition of a cult, special language is used to divide us further and cut us off from one another.

    Even calling for guillotines is kind of the same thing. We should stop killing each other. Just seize everything they have and leave them fending for themselves, same as every one of us.

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      9 months ago

      The idea that Capitalists are directly controlling the media and intentionally inflammatory to create endless culture war that divides the Proletariat against itself is a firmly leftist belief.

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        9 months ago

        I mean, it’s also objectively true, but “leftist” and “true” align more often than not.

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          9 months ago

          Leftists generally are correct and also morally superior to conservatives, yes. Conservativism is reactionary and opposes liberation, in favor of maintaining current power structures, even if it relies on outward hatred of the less fortunate.

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            9 months ago

            Although it is understandable that you are frustrated with the „others“, I think the „right wing nutjobs“ are not what conservatism actually aspires to be.

            If you read up on conservative values, the ideas are partly morally sound:

            • limited government
            • rule of law
            • fiscal responsibility
            • human dignity

            Those were the only ones I could find that are most probably agreeable. I agree that fascists are evil but if we put everyone in that basket who wants to take care of their homeland we’re no better than them. We should know better.

            Or did I not understand you correctly?

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              9 months ago

              In my opinion, the actions of conservative people and politicians are inconsistent with their stated values.

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                9 months ago

                I agree. Thats why I said it. Conservatism isnt the enemy. People are riled up against each other and ultimately themselves.

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              There’s a difference between espoused values and practical plans. Conservatives want strong government, draconian punishment to keep people in line, limited social safety nets, and traditional gender roles and family structure. All of this is built on regressive outlook and results from reactionary outlook.

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                9 months ago

                That is what current „conservative“ politicians in certain countries do. What I‘m saying is that we‘re only hurting ourselves if we hate each other. Instead we must agree on things and keep each other honest imo.

                One reason why conservatives turn to right wing nutjobs is because someone (populists) promises them answers they can understand. The evidently more educated side instead looks down on them. Its obvious from the derogatory language some people use.

                I‘m saying we wont make this world better by killing each other. The enemy is in control of the media and tries to cut off education (paywall it, dilute it) so we‘re easier to manipulate.

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        9 months ago

        I know. I‘m just trying to get peeps from hating each other because this only helps those in power.

        From the downvotes I deduce that not everyone likes the idea.

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      9 months ago

      As in the definition of a cult, special language is used to divide us further and cut us off from one another.

      Which definition of a cult is that? Because there is no scientific definition. There are models for high-control organizations (a term used specifically because “cult” has too much baggage for scientific methods), and language is only one aspect of information control. Every single organization on Earth will create its own language for things. That alone doesn’t mean they’re high-control.

      I’ve been in a high-control organization. It doesn’t work like that, and I think diluting the term to cover such broad categories is insulting to people who have been there.

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        Saying something shares the mechanics of a cult is not insulting to someone who has been in a cult if that is what you mean.

        Its a pattern I recognized. People fight over who is right and left, neo-contra-whatever. Its ultimately not informative and makes misunderstandings more common.

        And what I‘m actually saying is that the media is controlled by the same people who benefit from us fighting instead of demanding housing prices go down immediately or wages go up accordingly. Its not that hard. We‘re just told its impossible.