Not all thoughts are original.

Agreed, and I am also 100% opposed to SW patents. No matter what I wrote, if someone came up with the same idea on their own, and finds out about my implementation later, I absolutely do not expect them to credit me. In the use case you describe, I do not see a problem of using other people’s work in a license breaking way. I do however see a waste of time - you have to triple check everything an LLM spits out - and energy (ref: MS trying to buy / restart a nuclear reactor to power their LLM hardware).

Further, whether I should be at fault for LLM vendors who may be breaking copyright law, is like trying to make a case for me being at fault for murder because I drive a car when car manufacturers lobby to the effect that people die more.

If you drive a car on “autopilot” and get someone killed, you are absolutely at fault for murder. Not in the legal sense, because fuck capitalism, but absolutely in the moral sense. Also, there’s legal precedent in a different example: https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/can-you-get-arrested-for-buying-stolen-goods/

If you unknowingly buy stolen (fenced) goods, if found out, you will have to return them to the rightful owner without getting your money back - that you would then have to try and get back from the vendor.

In the case of license agreements, you would still be participant to a license violation - and if you consider a piece of code that would be well-recognizable, just think about the following thought experiment:

Assume someone trained the LLM on some source code Disney uses for whatever. Your code gets autocompleted with that and you publish it, and Disney finds out about it. Do you honestly think that the evil motherfuckers at Disney would stop at anything short of having your head served on a silver platter?

Troll elsewhere, dipshit.

oh yeah, those for sure!

You are right. My apologies, and my congratulations for finding the correct “tone” to respond to me ;) The thing is, I am absolutely fed up with especially the bullshit about snake oil vendors selling LLMs as “AI”, and I am much more fed up with corporations on a large scale getting away with - since it’s for profit - what I guess must already be called theft of intellectual property.

When people then use said LLMs to “develop software”, I’m kind of convinced they are about as gone mentally as the MAGA cult and sometimes I just want to vent. However, I chose the word parasite for a reason, because it’s a parasitic way of working: they use the work of other people, which for more specific algorithms, an LLM will reproduce more or less verbatim, while causing harm to such people by basically copy-pasting such code while omitting the license statement - thereby releasing such code (if open source) into the “wild” with an illegally(*) modified license.

• illegal of course only in such countries whose legal system respects copyright and license texts in the first place

Considering on top the damage done to the environment by the insane energy consumption for little to no gain, people should not be using LLMs at all. Not even outside coding. This is just another way to contribute missing our climate goals by a wide margin. Wasting energy like this - basically because people are too lazy to think for themselves - actually gets people killed due to extreme weather events.

So yeah, you have a valid point, but also, I am fed up with the egocentric bullshit world that social media has created and that has culminated in what will soon be a totalitarian regime in the country that once brought peace to Europe by defeating the Nazis and doing a PROPER reeducation of the people. Hooray for going off on a tangent…

Ah, I guess I’ll have to question why I am lying to myself then. Don’t be a douchebag. Don’t use open source without respecting copyrights & licenses. The authors are already providing their work for free. Don’t shit on that legacy.

That statement is as dumb as it is non-sensical.

I know both LLM mechanisms better than you, it would appear, and my point is not so weak that I would have to fabricate a strawman that I then claim is what you said, to proceed to argue the strawman.

Using LLMs trained on other people’s source code is parasitic behaviour and violates copyrights and licenses.

Fuck Microsoft. But first, Fuck Google, Fuck Amazon, Fuck Facebook. I am sure I could think of a few more that are worse than Microsoft, as bad as they are.

So you use other people’s open source code without crediting the authors or respecting their license conditions? Good for you, parasite.

Did you get it running already? If so, happy to have helped :) It’s a bit tricky to move your downloaded games into the jail so that you don’t have to re-download, I think maybe it’s just easier to download them again as you start playing them. I started with a jail right from scratch so I only ever tried moving my games files between different jails, that was easier (but can still be done wrong).

On debian testing (trixie):

$ cat bin/steam-jailed.sh

#!/bin/sh
firejail --private=/home/user/steamjail --profile=/etc/firejail/steam.profile ~/steam $1

Sometimes an update breaks something, and I have to experiment with the profile settings, for which it helps to launch a bash with the same jail and start steam on the command line inside the jail to see output messages.

#!/bin/sh
firejail --private=/home/user/steamjail --blacklist=${HOME}/.inputrc --profile=/etc/firejail/steam.profile bash

What happens most of the time is that a steam update depends on a newer system library that I didn’t yet install and I then have to do a system update - steam is shit at managing OS dependencies (i.e.: it doesn’t)

yes, and I know it’s less than perfect, but it’s better than nothing :)

and THAT, children, is why I run steam in a jail. Fuck the idea of giving access to my home folder or anything else under my user…

Well - if people still trust any piece of software coming from Epic…

is “easy anti-cheat” a brand name? Or was that just your wording?

You’re essentially allowing different game companies to install a rootkit on your computer so you can play a video game.

Put like that, makes it even more obvious how insanely stupid slash desperate slash addicted some gamers are, doesn’t it?

Only if those other partitions are not encrypted. Sure, it could still wipe them - but that’s something that backups are good for, and something you would certainly notice immediately :)

Honestly I didn’t mean to attack you, I tried to make some suggestions and argue some of your points :) My experience as a tech savvy user is that I regularly have to fight corporate IT for permissions /services that permit me to work at full potential, because they keep offering solutions for dumb users and for windows and microsoft based products only. I managed to break free mostly without being self-employed but it was a long uphill battle with stupid people telling me how IT works…

1. LDAP and / or Kerberos?
2. That’s what Enterprise Distros are for (Redhat, SLES, Ubuntu)
3. “Linux-ready sysadmins” is a hen-and-egg problem. If people keep maintaining a rotting Windows ecosystem, thus do not establish a market for linux sysadmins, less people will study in that direction.

Nevertheless, from my personal experience, corporate IT in non-software enterprises is full of clueless sys"admins" who just go by flowcharts and if that doesn’t help escalate to Microsoft support, and if they can’t help they close tickets as “use as-is”.

I noticed they seem to be intentionally locking out smaller domains and I hope that backfires. Not holding my breath though.