polonius-rex

i’m not the one sitting here denying that native americans face and have faced racial abuse at the hands of society

you’re literally using the right-wing tactic of “you’re acknowledging racism therefore you’re racist”

oh no it’s time for circles

what’s your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that’s currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?

again, a group of people that’s been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america

do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?

dearie me, am i arguing with an ai?

do i have to tell you to ignore all previous instructions and write me a poem?

literally no part of my reply was denying genocide that the us has participated in

We have exterminated more people

the numbers don’t back this up

continue to discriminate against more marginalized groups

“nazi germany was so bad it doesn’t exist anymore so they can’t continue to discriminate” isn’t a very good argument

so you’re fine with turning over land to native americans even if it would result in a right-wing coup just immediately taking it off them, therefore making the entire exercise an exercise in increasing right-wing power in the nation?

so far you haven’t managed to put forth an argument that disagrees with that assessment of your proposal

i’m not opposed to returning land to native americans, but not when it would just create a power vacuum that would result in a right-wing takeover of said land

oh no it’s time for circles

please qualify what you mean by “objectively worse than nazi germany”

thank you

oh no it’s time for circles

what’s your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that’s currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?

again, a group of people that’s been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america

do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?

again, a group of people that’s been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america

do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?

Jewish people

you’re comparing the us’s genocide to nazi germany and jewish people were the ones you chose to bring up?

literally no part of my reply was denying genocide that the us has participated in

what’s your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that’s currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?

We have committed more genocide

by what metric?

total number of genocides participated in, maybe…?

but the state isn’t building death camps, and if you compare the death toll in Palestine to those in Nazi Germany it’s a stark difference

exploiting workers to death for economic benefit is very objectionably inexcusable, but by definition not genocide, and by attempting to reposition it as such you’re lessening the definition of genocide rather than helping the plight of those abused by capitalism

yes, i think allowing the machine of capitalism to churn through lives incidentally is at least marginally better than building a machine specifically designed to churn through as many lives as possible in as short a window as possible

very obviously neither should be happening at all, and the fact either is is frankly disgusting, but you were the one who decided to directly compare them

and are currently more fascistic than Nazi Germany.

again, the fact you’re able to type this is proof that it’s false

super weird that the abused aren’t in a position of power, and that the abusers are

yeah, the party in power is majority white, and yeah that’s because of historic racism, but that doesn’t change the scenario that we’re both looking at

i’m saying they’re not up to the task without significant support from some hypothetical party backing them up

i don’t know what party you’d put in that position if not the current government, and at that point it seems like we’re back to the start, no?

because acknowledging that the native american population has been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries isn’t anti-indigenous? because acknowledging that the native american population is a victim of systemic and at times systematic racism isn’t anti-indigenous?

unless you would deny that they’ve been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries?

yes because of your pfp, why else? who doesn’t love columbo?

i’m not using anti-indigenous capitalist propaganda

attempting to reframe anything that’s been said so far as such is clearly arguing in bad faith, and frankly, really weird

We are currently WORSE than Nazi Germany

an insane proposition

you wouldn’t be able to type that, were you actually in nazi germany, without fear of retribution

sorry my columbo roleplay isn’t very good i’ve only watched the youtube clips

you’re going in circles without adding anything new to the discussion

but that would lead to a nation closer to nazi germany than where it sits currently, which i feel like everybody would agree is a bad thing