While there may be some truth in that it’s a pretty broad generalization and the article isn’t about blame it’s about the impact the bill will have.

Thanks for catching that. It’s valid criticism and the article should attribute more sources. There are other articles about this program that are unfortunately behind a paywall and some just mention “pilot programs” but don’t specify much further. There is this company in The Netherlands which seems likely to be one of them. You’ll need to translate the site to your preferred language.

The article has several links to sources which go into greater detail, each containing their own sources such as this which contains more design info you may find helpful.

From my understanding they are still spending money on fossil fuels like coal to some extent but they’re clearly in the process of transitioning towards green energy and you’re right that they’re surpassing us there, by far.

This Green Energy community is on a Solarpunk instance powered by solar power and a lot of Solarpunk fiction finds hope in dark times by imagining ways people respond to climate catastrophes with resilience, solidarity and community when our governments fail to provide solutions. The DIY and hopeful aspects of Solarpunk, whether real or fiction, seem especially prescient towards our current situation though that’s not denying what you just pointed out.

I definitely agree that people should move forward with solar / wind however they can, especially DIY projects. This will hurt people on on an industrial scale, though and will likely hurt many companies and jobs so it’s still important to be aware and prepared at the least.

It sounds to me like he was saying that wind power does that, which is incorrect, but coal is certainly destructive https://environmentamerica.org/center/articles/how-coal-mining-harms-the-environment/

Thanks for your insightful comments. Sums it up well and I appreciate that you ended on a hopeful, positive note. I agree with you and I think we’ll be seeing more mutual aid groups, DIY efforts and acts of solidarity as ordinary people come together despite the greed and hubris of those in power.

Thanks for the clarification

It’s not whataboutism. It’s getting the priorities straight and not getting distracted by false problems.

The article posted facts and supported findings. These are not “false problems” and are posted for information and discussion, not as a distraction.

What is raised in the article is not specific to renewables. It’s pretty much generalized as soon as you have private interests.

The article is specifically about issues pertaining to the industry producing and selling renewables in California, USA. I have no private issues other than the sharing of information and constructive discussions about it. A share is not necessarily an endorsement and will not be received equally by all viewers though we should be able to engage in discussions without making assumptions about other users or unnecessarily pointing fingers.

So isolating renewables is improper and demagogic.

The focus of this community is green energy and there will be posts that focus on renewables. This post is on topic and posts from others are are always welcome, provided no false information is shared and discussions don’t get combative.

Agreed that oil and gas are far worse in these aspects.

Let’s not succumb to whataboutism, however. These are still important issues to consider to keep green energy sources ethical and to prevent corporate corruption and greenwashing of these alternative energy sources. This should be worth considering for those interested in green energy , especially for solarpunks practicing prefigurative politics, to prevent these issues in the future.

Do you mind providing a source for this information? It seems to contradict this

Maybe so but the article isn’t really talking about that. It just used that as a phrase to exemplify the versatility of batteries and how these could be a greener solution for advanced technologies they are used for.

You and @Mihies@programming.dev can find more info about the project including many more articles on their website . The company is responsible for the world’s largest solar project . Do you have anything to support your arguments? You have been presented with counter arguments and not provided any info . Why do you think they wouldn’t have considered clouds in Indiana?

That’s one of the many Myths about solar energy as home panels do work on cloudy days and a solar farm of this magnitude would have to consider that before reaching this phase .

No worries, friend. It’s a valid point. Publications do try to pull readers in with vague wording sometimes. If the rest of the world follows China’s model maybe things will improve on a more global scale.

I don’t read it that way as it doesn’t specify at all. That’s the article’s headline. It’s just shared as it is

Agreed but I don’t think that’s what the article is trying to say.

Thanks. That’s effectively what the article says. It’s confirming what locals have long known / suspected. Thanks for your perspective.

I don’t see that at all. The article focuses on how strong Solar Power is in Pakistan without mass green energy policy from the government. Its performing strongly due to popular demand and implementation

Thanks. They definitely discussed propane in the article