• AtariDump@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    They are tipped, yes, but no NOT rely on tips for their wages. No other industry pays under minimum wage and expects me, the consumer, to subsidize employee’s wages.

    Try again.

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      Then no, venue security is not the same as TSA. Stop moving your goalposts. It’s one or the other: either degree matters and venue security isn’t the same as TSA so uniqueness of a scenario isn’t important, or degree doesn’t matter and every traditionally tipped worker is the same so it’s not unique in the first place. Either way your position crumbles.

      And for at least the third time: your entire argument is pointless and irrelevant in the first place. Things are as they are. Saying “It shouldn’t be this way!” doesn’t change how it is.

      Restaurants that eliminate tipping will go out of business in competition with those that don’t. This is not a problem that can be solved by individual restaurant initiative. Stomping your feet and shouting that you shouldn’t have to and it’s not fair, without offering any actual effective course of action, is just embarrassing.

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        10 months ago

        Answer the question then.

        Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

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          10 months ago

          Name one even prime number other than 2. Name one flying mammal other than a bat. Name one Western country that doesn’t use metric other than the US.

          What point are you trying to make? This isn’t some gotcha, you are making pointless statements. 2 is still prime, bats still fly, the US still doesn’t use metric. Calling out a situation as being unique doesn’t make it stop being what it is.

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            10 months ago

            Answer the question then.

            Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

            Unless you’re a bot or child, in which case I understand your deficiency in understanding the question.

            https://slrpnk.net/post/5625534

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              You keep saying the same thing like it’s relevant.

              You still haven’t named another even prime, flying mammal, or Western nation that doesn’t use metric.

              Let’s just focus on the last one: why should I have to learn yards and Fahrenheit and gallons when EVERY other Western country uses metric? No other Western country forces their children to learn that system, to the point you can’t understand standard signs and measures without it.

              It’s the same argument.

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                10 months ago

                Answer the question then.

                Name one other job (that isn’t in the food service industry) where the buyers subsidize the worker’s salary voluntarily. To the point where, without tips, the worker would NOT make minimum wage.

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                  10 months ago

                  Are you a child or a bot?

                  Answer the question.

                  Name one other western country (that isn’t the United States) where the residents have to use the imperial system. To the point where, without the imperial system, the resident would NOT be able to understand posted signs and measures.

                  When you answer my question, you’ll have the answer to yours. Asking the same question again, or refusing to answer mine, will be proof that you can’t read, or can’t think, or both.