I think my favorite thing about Lemmy is that it feels like Reddit used to. Less negativity, more engaged users (I think). I know it will be fun to watch Reddit die, but if I put spite aside what I’m really mad at Reddit about is more about what Reddit became and maybe part of that is when the general internet user started going to Reddit and it became less like the small community it was years ago. Feel free to disagree or share an argument 😉
So call me what you will but I just want a new “Reddit”. I want a place where I can come up with a niche and find a place where people are talking about it. Whether it’s experts or enthusiasts but I want to shared experience of “talking about X”.
Exactly, I don’t need reddit to die, but I do hope long-term ill be able to interact with as many niche communities here.
Exactly, well put. This is what reddit used to be, I hope this place can and will grow into just that in time. I see the potential. Everything starts with very little.
Not really, I miss having niche communities that were populated. I get where you’re coming from, but I think more warm bodies around here will be a good thing.
no way. this kind of elitism and gatekeeping kills communities
Yeah, I really hope we can get past the culture of thinking lemmy is morally superior to reddit and just focus on having something nice here that no CEO can fuck with.
Not really. I feel like it’s not healthy for any community if all the people you don’t like aren’t there to offer their viewpoint. The more you build an echo chamber with no dissenting opinions, the more extreme it becomes and the less it’s able to deal with things that clash with it’s ideals. The less it’s involved with things that clash with it’s ideals.
-This does not include groups with completely bad faith arguments that are clearly racist bigots.
You’re right in a way, but I think you’re applying a narrow definition of “opinion” when I think most people ITT are thinking about “behaviours”.
Sure, it’s not great to exclude dissenting political opinions, the intolerance paradox being a notable exception. That said, I’m not here to discuss politics.
Say for example that some users will do anything for fake internet points - post anything, say anything, there behaviour is guided by the pursuit of karma and building some kind of following. Other users will do anything for engagement, whatever it takes to get others to engage with them including trolling. I’m happy enough for these types of users to find more rewarding platforms elsewhere. Note that’s different to excluding them, it’s just being a part of a place that isn’t fertile ground for their fixations.
I don’t mind discussing stuff with people who have different views from me, but on Reddit I would mostly type out a comment, imagine what kind of rude retort I’d get, and trash the draft. I remember some years back having a great back and forth with someone on nuclear power and actually changing my mind! But more recently it’s just “you’re wrong and dumb”, no discussion. Ugh.
I’m still very new here, but it feels like Reddit used to, and I like it.
Yes! Every time I read a conversation on here, I feel like I’m back on Reddit of yore, and it’s an amazing feeling. I went to Reddit last week (it had an answer to a tech question that was posted a year or so ago), and was appalled at the negativity of the comment section.
The bulk of reddit has already gone back to reddit.
Don’t get me wrong, lemmy is great just the way it is. We don’t need a continued influx from reddit (although lets see what happens on 1 July).
The best part about Reddit is the sheer amount of actually useful, highly specific information about anything. The friendly community aspect has been, in my opinion, slowly crumbling for a few years now. If Lemmy starts to get as big as current Reddit, then I’m sure it will follow the same path and become shittifed. I do hope it takes a while though.
Perhaps not the bulk. As people flee Reddit, I’ve been already noticing a few users here behaving as they were in Reddit: assumers, irrationals, context-illiterate, “chrust me” babble, so goes on. I feel like those perhaps would do a great service for Lemmy if they stayed in Reddit.
However I also think that this is partially a result of the environment, as Reddit has been tailored for stupidity. So it’s possible that those users start behaving a bit more like decent people, as time goes by.
There is always going to be negative users. They are already here
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To heck with you for your stupid opinion, everyone is obviously always positive here
I’ve been finding Reddit quite toxic lately, I also find it annoying how much less engaged people are in the actual articles posted and more interested in getting a laugh going off topic.
One thing I really don’t miss are the posts that are like:
I like chocolate.
edit: okay guys, I get that some of you don’t like chocolate, I was just expressing a personal preference.
edit 2: i understand that some people have had distant relatives who have died from eating chocolate, I meant no disrespect to the chocolate-averse community and I’m deeply sorry.
edit 3: someone reported me for suicide to the admins and someone else said I was spreading hate speech, gomna take a break from reddit for a while
Reddit is not going to die. Not atleast in foreseeable future.
Definitely. It’s going to become a mainstream platform like Instagram.
Yeah, I see the shitty part of reddit is moving here now, doing internet arguments again.
Well that’s a stupid take and you are dumb.
(Sorry, I know, not funny…) 🤦♂️
More seriously, while I deleted my Reddit account, I haven’t tried to avoid landing on some Reddit threads linked from Lemmy, and for the past few days I’ve looked closer at comment sections, because I’m noticing I had forgotten how rotten they were compared to here. So much pointless aggressivity.
I think it’s credible that if Lemmy was to keep growing, that issue will also keep growing as you have noticed. So, a bit like op, I’m hoping it only grows big enough to keep the open source projects interested and staffed; but not so much so that most of the sucky aggressivity stays on Reddit or elsewhere permanently.
I repeat this a lot, but I think the most important thing to do is to stay sincere and not be a defeatist. No arguing just to win, but no hugbox mentality either.
I have no doubt at all that the reddit admins and powermods were algorithmically pushing flame bait and hatred (especially to the political subs) to drive traffic to the site, so now that we’ve have a place where that isn’t possible (yet, at least), I’m interested to see if that’s just the nature of political discussion on the Internet.
I don’t know, I think even in real life people get silly when discussing topics they have strong feelings about, and politics seems to be one of them fairly often.
I guess all I’m saying is I understand your point and it makes sense to me, I’m probably just a bit less hopeful than you are (and I commend you for it!)
It’s the idea of a New Sincerity, or post-postmodernism.
Yeah, the world is turning to shit, and nothing matters. So what? What are you doing to make it less shit?
It’s the idea that you should be trying to save everyone with the understanding that a small portion are just too far gone to be saved, and you should focus on the ones that you can, because even if you just save one person, that’s still a net positive.
I think it’s a very sensible approach, and honestly quite uplifting too.
The comment section is for Internet arguments!
Hey, whatever you do is your business, I’m just here to promote “Barbie”.
“Can we get back to talking about Rampart please”
Ah the old memes
I think Reddit will slowly bleed users as the experience gets worse but it won’t collapse altogether. It’s not likely that any one service will replace it but I could see a series of successors come about eventually.
I definitely get how you feel, but I think free communities stay like this one in tone, regardless of whether they get substantial growth. I think it could be a counterintuitive sign of health when Lemmy is big enough that some of its userbase is kinda annoying and you have to find the subs (is that the right term here?) with the community that you like
The equivalent to “subreddits” are called Communities in Lemmy and Magazines in Kbin
Subs=subscriptions.
I just hope the capitalist bootlickers stay there. I’m tired of bad faith arguments that try to slow down class solidarity.
