The new ‘countryside sounds and smells law’ aims to give more protection to existing farms from newly arrived residents in the area.

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    11 months ago

    Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

    Maui is going to die.

    If you ended that reply by commenting on the central valley alone, you might have a valid point, but you imply all of Maui is brown and going to die. That is incorrect. I am also on this island and can see it myself.

    edit: it also leaves out how most residents also wanted the cane burning and plowing to stop because it was a health problem, and how companies are slowly replanting that land with various crops that don’t cause the same type of issues, but are still in early stages.

    It also implies that there’s only one place affected by the ashfall and dust by being downwind, which is incorrect when people in Kihei, Wailuku and Paia can be affected (as experienced personally by myself in all three places), which are all in entirely different directions. The wind doesn’t always blow one way here.

    edit2: it’s also weird that this reply was to an article about roosters, but instead of commenting on that problem here, you went with something completely unrelated.

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        LOL, whatever dude, the loss of Lahaina should not be underrepresented, but it was not the only primary attraction. As someone who woke up with breathing issues from cane smoke while living in Kihei, Wailuku, and Paia, it was a problem for everyone within wind’s distance. Anyone, including yourself, who says otherwise is just fucking ignorant. And any such law that we may need to have in place is totally irrelevant to the cane fields and all the reasons that whole operation was stopped. The only people legitimately sad about it were cane field workers, which lasted until they got different jobs. While we live on the same rock, we clearly live in different realities.

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            If you can’t breathe here then you should move.

            Not a problem now, because the burning has stopped, dumbass.

            You talk about how something was the biggest local news item, yet apparently totally ignored the years of complaints from locals and long-term residents suffering from various forms of smoke-induced asthma, emphysema, etc… which is why it’s ridiculous that people here are still giving older folks wearing masks a hard time, because many of them were wearing masks during burning seasons to help with the effects before the pandemic even happened.

            Now we have even more dust and fires since there’s no irrigation system to control it.

            LOL, no, that’s not true either. The main places we had uncontrolled fires didn’t have irrigation to begin with, with exception of the one downhill from Pukalani headed towards Maui Meadows (edit: actually, no, the area approaching Maui Meadows never had irrigation either), but please, do point out where the irrigation systems were in Kula, Olinda, and over on the west side so I can go see where that used to be. All the other fires we’ve had recently are the pedestrian variety probably caused by cigarettes being thrown out like usual, and they were all quickly brought under control. I get the alerts for emergencies and all clears just like everyone else here.

            This nonsense may go over with people who don’t live here, but I do live here.

            And don’t put “maui” in your screen name or emails; that’s carpetbagger shit right there.

            No, you can get over it. If it’s a problem for you, that’s just too bad.

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              11 months ago

              Thank you for being the perfect demonstration of the problem. All the complaints you mentioned came from new residents in new housing projects. VOG- from volcanoes- has been a respiratory issue here when the trades died more than cane burns have. Havent seen much of that recently.

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                Wrong again, not sure what part of “Paia” and “Wailuku” you don’t understand, but neither of those places has had new housing projects.

                Also not sure what part of “locals” you don’t understand, but not many of them are in new housing projects either.

                I lived for several years at the end of West Vineyard St in Wailuku, overlooking Happy Valley, in the opposite direction from Kihei, and we got smoked out by cane burning on a regular basis. That’s not even remotely a new housing project area.

                edit: seriously tho, are you actually trying to blame smoke complaints on vog? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve said yet. It’s a completely different problem with milder effects. People think they’re having allergies and going for the antihistamines, they aren’t waking up with their eyes and lungs burning.

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                  We are never, ever going to agree on this. You’re being straight up melodramatic. You were not getting smoked out on a regular basic because that is neither how field rotation nor trades winds work.

                  But be happy! You whined and bitched like little girls and shut down a factory, destroyed a power plant (TWO of them!), and put lots of people out of work and some out of lifelong careers. Mazel tov!

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                    11 months ago

                    Dude who says all of Maui is brown, going to die, and has no primary attractions left says someone else is being melodramatic. LOL

                    And clearly you don’t know as much about the winds as you claim. Feel free to go door to door over there and ask people about it.