• SCB@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Sinn Fein was the political party that had deniability.

    This is the difference. Hamas is literally founded on the genocide of Israel, and as the government of Gaza, the sole political party. When their position is vacated, if the prevailing opinion of Gazans has not changed (and the time since the Oct 7 massacres has definitely not helped that) you’ll just get a different terror org running the show.

    I am saying increasing the military presence there while restricting more freedoms is the wrong thing to do as is evidenced by history.

    They have to help rebuild or they will be in a worse position. Sometimes, as a leader, you have no good choices and must pick a least bad choice.

    Even saying this, I think we both know Israel will fuck up that last part. Their leadership sucks and they’ll do a bad job and round and round we’ll go. That’s why this situation sucks so much.

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      11 months ago

      We both know that Israel’s rebuilding plans means more Palestinian displacement.

      And this is a bad situation of the IDF’s making.

      Military occupation isn’t the answer. And at this point there are no good answers as Palestine has been forced into a failed state by Israel.

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        11 months ago

        We both know that Israel’s rebuilding plans means more Palestinian displacement.

        I very strongly disagree with this statement, based on past two-state offerings by Israel.

        And at this point there are no good answers as Palestine has been forced into a failed state by Israel.

        Here we agree tho. We are discussing which shit sandwich is most palatable.

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          11 months ago

          I very strongly disagree with this statement, based on past two-state offerings by Israel.

          As if Israel hasn’t consistently taken land through settler occupation for decades.

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          11 months ago

          Israel hasn’t actually wanted a two state solution since Rabin. They pretend to offer it then withdraw it the second something goes wrong, which they goad into happening on purpose by doing things like continuing increasing West Bank occupations while negotiating, or propping up Hamas to do a terrorism while negotiating, so they have an excuse to stop negotiations.