No, it really doesn’t. It’s a kludge to allow hostile humour against people you don’t like, while protecting those you do, all while claiming impartiality.
I feel that privilege is a concept that should be applied to classes, not individuals. You can’t just judge someone as privileged based on one aspect of their life.
The whole “punching up” concept just leads to it being accepted to make misogynistic jokes at white women, ablist and body-shaming jokes at “creepy” men, racist jokes at wealthy Asians, and so on.
Rather, I think the intent behind the joke, and the consequences of the stereotypes it reinforces, is what should be examined rather than the demographic on the receiving end.
The problem is that people use humor as a weapon. If you fall those people point a finger at you and laugh while calling you an idiot.
Others use it as a way to deal with stuff or in general just see it as something to make light of a situation. Those people would also laugh but they would come to your help, ask if everything is alright and would help you up. While knowing that everybody falls down sometimes and that it can funny.
Everything can be funny with the right people and that helps to cope.
Dark humor is good as long as it’s actually dark humor. As much as I hated the power mods of Reddit, Awkwardtheturtle’s constant trolling of the dark humor sub was fucking hilarious. He’d throw random rules on posting and commenting that would take off most comments and posts by default. Seeing those immature assholes lose their shit over not being able to be as racist is hilarious.
Redditor “You like dark humor?”
Me “Yeah sure I guess”
Redditor “I LIKE RAPING BABIES AND MURDERING MINORITIES! I ALSO BEAT MY WIFE! PLEASE LAUGH!”
The problem with racist humor is that theres a limited number of premises. How many ways can you make a slavery or no father joke about black people? How many math jokes can you make about asians? Muslim terrorists? You get the idea.
I dont want the same lazy bullshit over and over. I want my dark humor to be fresh! I want my Titan submarine jokes before the bubbles reach the surface.
Racist humor isnt “dark” humor, its lazy tired rehashed crap. Real dark humor is like kids with leukaemia, it never seems to get old.
Yeah I’m all for some dark humor, but can we not make this Reddit 2.0 or whatever?
Dark humor is humor generated from your own pain.
Edgy humor is humor generated from the pain of others.
The first one is funny, the second is boring and shitty
Eh. I’d say there’s exceptions. Maybe more to the point of “Don’t Punch Down”?
I can laugh all day at the rich/privileged suffering the consequences of their own mistakes.
“Don’t Puch down” is good rule to live by.
Maybe the rich/privileged are controlling/influencing so much of our lifes that this counts as your own pain.
No, it really doesn’t. It’s a kludge to allow hostile humour against people you don’t like, while protecting those you do, all while claiming impartiality.
What’s a kludge?
An extra complication necessary to make something work. It’s generally negative.
Not certain the rich feel pain the same way, but you’re right. Punching up has value and often is the right thing to do
I feel that privilege is a concept that should be applied to classes, not individuals. You can’t just judge someone as privileged based on one aspect of their life.
The whole “punching up” concept just leads to it being accepted to make misogynistic jokes at white women, ablist and body-shaming jokes at “creepy” men, racist jokes at wealthy Asians, and so on.
Rather, I think the intent behind the joke, and the consequences of the stereotypes it reinforces, is what should be examined rather than the demographic on the receiving end.
I think its more the way humor is used/intended.
The problem is that people use humor as a weapon. If you fall those people point a finger at you and laugh while calling you an idiot.
Others use it as a way to deal with stuff or in general just see it as something to make light of a situation. Those people would also laugh but they would come to your help, ask if everything is alright and would help you up. While knowing that everybody falls down sometimes and that it can funny.
Everything can be funny with the right people and that helps to cope.
Relevant Contrapoints: https://youtu.be/qtj7LDYaufM
I got no problem with humor… But rasistical humor I don’t really care for. It is possible to have fun without hurting loads of peoples feelings.
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Dark humor is good as long as it’s actually dark humor. As much as I hated the power mods of Reddit, Awkwardtheturtle’s constant trolling of the dark humor sub was fucking hilarious. He’d throw random rules on posting and commenting that would take off most comments and posts by default. Seeing those immature assholes lose their shit over not being able to be as racist is hilarious.
Redditor “You like dark humor?”
Me “Yeah sure I guess”
Redditor “I LIKE RAPING BABIES AND MURDERING MINORITIES! I ALSO BEAT MY WIFE! PLEASE LAUGH!”
Your example has the dark, but none of the humor.
I like dark humor, just as long it’s not about skin color. It’s weird how many racists seem to be attracted to meme channels.
The problem with racist humor is that theres a limited number of premises. How many ways can you make a slavery or no father joke about black people? How many math jokes can you make about asians? Muslim terrorists? You get the idea.
I dont want the same lazy bullshit over and over. I want my dark humor to be fresh! I want my Titan submarine jokes before the bubbles reach the surface.
Racist humor isnt “dark” humor, its lazy tired rehashed crap. Real dark humor is like kids with leukaemia, it never seems to get old.
RIP, Luke.
They are not attracted to it because it’s racial, they are attracted to it because it is taboo.
I don’t think dark humor isn’t the same as “Reddit 2.0”
But in general, yeah, I’m with you.