Perhaps you’ve noticed. We have reached a tipping point in the country over tipping.

To tip or not to tip has led to Shakespearean soliloquies by customers explaining why they refuse to tip for certain things.

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, customers were grateful for those who seemingly risked their safety so we could get groceries, order dinner or anything that made our lives feel normal. A nice tip was the least we could do to show gratitude.

But now that we are out about and back to normal, the custom of tipping for just about everything has somehow remained; and customers are upset.

A new study from Pew Research shows most American adults say tipping is expected in more places than it was five years ago, and there’s no real consensus about how tipping should work.

  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    How can the US actually end tipping culture? I cannot fathom a way forward that doesn’t fuck over a lot of people in the short-term. Ideas?

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        10 months ago

        Makes sense. The issue is that many service workers are making well above minimum wage via tipping, and they’re supporting their families off it. I guess raise universal minimum wage alongside tipping ban?

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          10 months ago

          This is a problem as well. I read at Casa Bonita they eliminated tipping and started paying the staff $30/h. And some of the staff are mad about it, which I kinda get but it’s a feast or famine type deal. Some days you really make a ton on tipping, and some days you get left a fake $100 from some evangelical asshole. I’d rather count on a guaranteed wage than a maybe. Full disclosure though, I’ve never worked in a tipping profession so I may be missing some things.

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          10 months ago

          No, raise the wage and make tipping optional. Simply move from ‘tipping is part of their wage, they need it because they make below minimum wage’ to ‘tipping is a reward for good service’. You can leave it but they will not starve without it.

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        10 months ago

        Why would it?

        Well the most obvious reason is that tipping culture is robbing workers who it’s supposed to help.

        In my state, “tipped” positions’ minimum wage is 2.12/hr. Despite the fact that tipping isn’t guaranteed or mandatory. There are other “tipped” positions than waiters. How often do you tip the car hop at sonic that brings you your drink? They often make less than minimum wage. The dude making your sandwich at subway? Yeah, they deduct that guy’s tips from his hourly.

        Tell me why we shouldn’t end a system that exploits the culture to get away with paying out poverty wages?

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          10 months ago

          The biggest opponents of ending tipping are the bartenders and servers. There aren’t many other jobs where they can make hundreds of dollars in a few hours on a busy night, and they would not give up that even when offered $30 an hour

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            10 months ago

            I don’t doubt that, and it would be fine if it were just servers. Now that tipping culture has spread, it’s actively hurting people who the population at large doesn’t feel like they should have to tip

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          10 months ago

          Your understanding of minimum wage is incorrect - under the FLSA, if an employees tips do not bring their wages up to minimum, the employer must make up the difference. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped/2020

          Still horseshit though. If you can’t pay employees a fair wage, you don’t deserve to be in business, and it shouldn’t be on the customer to subsidize your employees’ shitty pay rate.

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            10 months ago

            I realize that. The idea is that these employees make minimum wage no matter what you tip them. The only tipped position that routinely breaks that is a restaurant server.