It depends. If the person I’m having a discussion with is cool. I’ll admit defeat. If the person is being an ass hat. I’ll first see if I can bend the data a bit to squeeze in my point. If I can’t do that. I’ll look for fringe information. If that doesn’t work. I’ll just ghost them.
Also, if the person is a dick and “technically” right. I will tell you how technically wrong you are all day like Lemmy was my job. However, if you’re cool I’ll admit that we are both technically right, and part ways.
TLDR: it’s ok to be right. Just don’t be a dick about it.
I think your problem is that you think it is as defeat. It’s a win, your learned something new and the other person spent his time for you. In these cases I am thank them regardless.
Either way I learned something new. But if you’re a dick I’m not going to let you know that. At best I’m not going to “feed the trolls” and at worst I’m going to make you work for being a dick.
See it has less to do with being wrong. Hell, we’re all wrong sometimes. It has to do with how someone approaches me. All of us have some knowledge that someone else doesn’t. That’s ok. But that doesn’t make you or I special. Likewise, our lack of that particular knowledge doesn’t make us dumb either. So, why be a dick about it?
Also, if you can believe this. I get into quite a few religious debates. I know. It sounds crazy. In those discussions things aren’t always as cut and dry as say 2+2=4. People get really passionate about what amounts to nothing but interpretation and opinion.
I actually found that if you are polite and thank person when you learn something new, the dickerry decreases. If you behave combative, then it stays high. Your choice, of course, but you may want to try it. Internet is a strange place, where normally good people start behaving aggressive, insulting others, but I found that quite often it can be corrected - you just have to take first step.
I mean, I can live with myself. Plus, if you really stop to think about it. The purpose was served either way. I learned the correct thing. It’s not like I’m going to make that mistake again. Really the only difference is whether my opponent or whatever you want to call them gets the satisfaction of knowing that they taught me something.
With that being said. Maybe I should clarify. It’s ok to be passionate about something. But all of us are wrong from time to time. There’s no need to be a dick when someone has their facts mixed up. Is it any worse being a pain to someone being a dick over perceived greater intelligence?
But a better question is. Has that attitude served you well? I mean, you seem awfully invested in an internet strangers weird habit of being annoying.
Personally, if I were being a dick for whatever reason and knew I was right, the thing that would absolutely make my day would be seeing them trying to double down and make some shit up despite getting caught being wrong. Even better if you ghost me. It means I’ve won and you’re being immature about it.
But if somebody actually admitted they were wrong but points out I was being a shithead about it? Then I’d feel bad.
Well, I mean you’re right about all of that. But, if I’m wrong and I decide to engage you anyway. It’s not really about proving myself right. It really becomes more of a how much time can I eat, and how frustrating can I be.
See, you miss the point. Once I know I’m wrong and the other person is a dick. I’m not trying to be right anymore. It’s only about stealing your time. I am time rich. I have nothing but time. The longer I can keep someone on the hook with half cocked facts and almost getting it the better. I’m a house husband and it literally breaks the monotony of cleaning, and being a chauffeur.
This isn’t something I do all the time. Generally, I spend my time just sharing my old person wisdom. For that matter I haven’t had a problem since coming to Lemmy from Reddit. I’m sure it’s coming. But, people here seem generally more pleasant.
It depends. If the person I’m having a discussion with is cool. I’ll admit defeat. If the person is being an ass hat. I’ll first see if I can bend the data a bit to squeeze in my point. If I can’t do that. I’ll look for fringe information. If that doesn’t work. I’ll just ghost them.
Also, if the person is a dick and “technically” right. I will tell you how technically wrong you are all day like Lemmy was my job. However, if you’re cool I’ll admit that we are both technically right, and part ways.
TLDR: it’s ok to be right. Just don’t be a dick about it.
I think your problem is that you think it is as defeat. It’s a win, your learned something new and the other person spent his time for you. In these cases I am thank them regardless.
As I said to the other person.
Either way I learned something new. But if you’re a dick I’m not going to let you know that. At best I’m not going to “feed the trolls” and at worst I’m going to make you work for being a dick.
See it has less to do with being wrong. Hell, we’re all wrong sometimes. It has to do with how someone approaches me. All of us have some knowledge that someone else doesn’t. That’s ok. But that doesn’t make you or I special. Likewise, our lack of that particular knowledge doesn’t make us dumb either. So, why be a dick about it?
Also, if you can believe this. I get into quite a few religious debates. I know. It sounds crazy. In those discussions things aren’t always as cut and dry as say 2+2=4. People get really passionate about what amounts to nothing but interpretation and opinion.
I actually found that if you are polite and thank person when you learn something new, the dickerry decreases. If you behave combative, then it stays high. Your choice, of course, but you may want to try it. Internet is a strange place, where normally good people start behaving aggressive, insulting others, but I found that quite often it can be corrected - you just have to take first step.
You’ve given me something to think about MuhammandJesusGaySex.
You purposely choose to continue to be wrong because someone else has a shit personality? Has that served you well?
Sometimes you can’t let the enemy have a single inch of ground, no matter the cost.
I mean, I can live with myself. Plus, if you really stop to think about it. The purpose was served either way. I learned the correct thing. It’s not like I’m going to make that mistake again. Really the only difference is whether my opponent or whatever you want to call them gets the satisfaction of knowing that they taught me something.
With that being said. Maybe I should clarify. It’s ok to be passionate about something. But all of us are wrong from time to time. There’s no need to be a dick when someone has their facts mixed up. Is it any worse being a pain to someone being a dick over perceived greater intelligence?
But a better question is. Has that attitude served you well? I mean, you seem awfully invested in an internet strangers weird habit of being annoying.
Personally, if I were being a dick for whatever reason and knew I was right, the thing that would absolutely make my day would be seeing them trying to double down and make some shit up despite getting caught being wrong. Even better if you ghost me. It means I’ve won and you’re being immature about it.
But if somebody actually admitted they were wrong but points out I was being a shithead about it? Then I’d feel bad.
Well, I mean you’re right about all of that. But, if I’m wrong and I decide to engage you anyway. It’s not really about proving myself right. It really becomes more of a how much time can I eat, and how frustrating can I be.
See, you miss the point. Once I know I’m wrong and the other person is a dick. I’m not trying to be right anymore. It’s only about stealing your time. I am time rich. I have nothing but time. The longer I can keep someone on the hook with half cocked facts and almost getting it the better. I’m a house husband and it literally breaks the monotony of cleaning, and being a chauffeur.
This isn’t something I do all the time. Generally, I spend my time just sharing my old person wisdom. For that matter I haven’t had a problem since coming to Lemmy from Reddit. I’m sure it’s coming. But, people here seem generally more pleasant.