Fact: Russia never actually implemented Communism. Stalin had the Bolsheviks assassinated. Stalinism is just Fascism calling itself Socialism by invoking Marx and Lenin’s names.
Also Fact: Tsarist Imperialism was extremely shitty as well. Shitty economy forcing people to pay workers in vodka.
Also Also Fact: when your normal is brutality, you tend to be brutal to others.
It goes back further. I’m pointing fingers at the first Tsar, because I don’t know much about what was going on before that, but the dots connect as far back as that at least.
Edit: On review, all of Russia might have been fucked from the jump thanks to the Mongols.
Respectfully, I think if we’re going to zoom out that far it has to be said that on balance, things have never been better for humans. Barring a massive setback like nuclear war, I view our current set of difficulties as growing pains.
My favorite historian’s sum-up has long been that history is “a series of unintended consequences”.
I agree with you when it comes to human history and science development. The quip is aimed at Russian history specifically, and as with many jokes, you have to be attuned to what it jokes about to enjoy it (the different eras of suffering of common people in Russia and the turbulent changes that often lead to more suffering). It’s just a joke though, it doesn’t survive deep scrutiny.
Russia never recovered from the never implemented correctly communism
Fact: Russia never actually implemented Communism. Stalin had the Bolsheviks assassinated. Stalinism is just Fascism calling itself Socialism by invoking Marx and Lenin’s names.
Also Fact: Tsarist Imperialism was extremely shitty as well. Shitty economy forcing people to pay workers in vodka.
Also Also Fact: when your normal is brutality, you tend to be brutal to others.
Right, in the Czar days they were so chill and things were great for the average person 🙄
It goes back further. I’m pointing fingers at the first Tsar, because I don’t know much about what was going on before that, but the dots connect as far back as that at least.
Edit: On review, all of Russia might have been fucked from the jump thanks to the Mongols.
Russian history is said to be easily described by a single sentence: And then it got worse.
Respectfully, I think if we’re going to zoom out that far it has to be said that on balance, things have never been better for humans. Barring a massive setback like nuclear war, I view our current set of difficulties as growing pains.
My favorite historian’s sum-up has long been that history is “a series of unintended consequences”.
I agree with you when it comes to human history and science development. The quip is aimed at Russian history specifically, and as with many jokes, you have to be attuned to what it jokes about to enjoy it (the different eras of suffering of common people in Russia and the turbulent changes that often lead to more suffering). It’s just a joke though, it doesn’t survive deep scrutiny.