I couldn’t find a post in this community about cameras so I figured I’d make one. Requirements:
- No “sign up” required to record video
- Video is stored locally
- Video is in a non-propriatary format
- Can work offline
Optional/Discussion Points:
- Can wireless connectivity be hardware disabled
- Can auto-update be disabled
- Does the device try to “phone home” if it is connected to wifi
- Disk encryption would be nice but I doubt that’ll be an option for anything other than self-hosted stuff
Does anyone know about Lorex (it seems more privacy centered)?
I’m highly technical, so feel free to mention self hosted raspberry pi soltuions as well.
Yes, you can obviously build your own version of event detection and remote storage, and then appify it in a way which is secure and ergonomically useful, nobody is claiming otherwise. This requires a considerable amount of expertise to do safely, and additional complexity generally expands your threat surface. For you, that may be fine. I’m pretty tech literate and have a bunch of other self hosted services, but I just don’t think the additional complexity is worth maintaining for push notifications. Again, that might be different for you.
I wasn’t implying that anyone was claiming anything, just attempting to detail a way in which privacy can be maintained while also having push notifications (both snapshots and video). I’m more pushing back against the general notion that it’s “too hard” to maintain privacy while using software and hardware that is supposed to enhance security.
If people think it’s “too hard” to maintain their privacy, they are likely to either give up and not do the security thing at all, or give their data away to a giant corp/cops, which undermines the security they were trying to enhance in the first place.
For the price of Ring hardware + subscription (you need a $20/mo subscription even if you want to use local storage), you can get an entire home automation setup with a robust security component in which everything is local and no data is sent anywhere, except to a device you control, over a secure and encrypted connection.
It’s not even hard to do - Home Assistant is very easy to get up and running these days (this was not always the case), and Frigate is also pretty easy - the documentation is extensive and there are a ton of videos available that cover installation and configuration.
The notification automation is available as a Home Assistant blueprint template - all one has to do is fill in some blanks.
And all of this can run on a Raspberry Pi or even a used $150 SFF Dell or Lenovo machine, or even just an old laptop.
You don’t even need a ton of storage space or dedicated drives - my 5 cameras use less than 64GB of storage in a month, and that is total, ROLLING storage, not cumulative, because you can configure how long each clip is saved before it’s automatically deleted. All of my clips and snapshots are deleted after 10 days. If there’s anything I want to keep, I just download it before 10 days is up.
For longer term storage, I have a simple nightly backup to a network drive, and weekly backup from there to an offsite location, but that’s just me, it would be just fine to save clips to a USB drive or a phone - whatever works.
I’m just saying that you don’t need to compromise privacy to obtain security.