• Noxy@pawb.social
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    11 hours ago

    Food ordering apps aren’t convenient as fuck

    I agree. Nothing convenient about overpaying to entrust your food to underpaid, unvetted delivery workers

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      10 hours ago

      God I hate this new phone the screen is just the tiniest bit too small and I keep hitting the left most suggestion instead of the middle one, turning ares into aren’ts and woulds into wouldn’ts.

      I’m sure you know what I meant.

      Pretending they aren’t massively popular exactly because they make the whole thing easier and more comfortable (browsing menus you know are up to date, being able to specify allergies as much as you want, etc) would be incredibly naive.

      Is capitalism using it aa a possibility to exploit even more? Yes. Does that suck balls? Yes. But does is the tech itself shit? No.

      Capitalism enshittifies everything. Automation isn’t cursed at because the current economic system mean that the working classes will get less, and that is a bad thing. The technology isn’t. So the tech isn’t the issue. Capitalism is.

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        2 hours ago

        I use them only when it’s free (ie someone else is paying for it). I hate them so much. They are not more convenient, they increase the price by 100% and they actively hurt people and small businesses.

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          1 hour ago

          Theyre ripoffs especially in the US.

          But the popularity of the tech, despite the enshittification They still are popular.

          But the underlying tech is good and convenient.

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        9 hours ago

        browsing menus you know are up to date

        A quick web search shows plenty of anecdotes to the contrary.

        being able to specify allergies as much as you want

        And you trust that?? If I had a serious food allergy I would absolutely NOT trust that a food delivery service would communicate those effectively given how much they push restaurants around, up to and including adding restaurants without their knowledge or consent.

        I suppose in the strictest sense, sure, these apps are convenient, but you sure are paying a lot for it, and some restaurants charge extra for it on top of the fees, and the delivery folks aren’t getting a fair cut of the fees. Most of the fees go to big tech.

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          7 hours ago

          You’re literally arguing that a billion dollar industry isn’t actually a popular service.

          If it’s so much better and more convenient to order by phone, why does almost no-one do it anymore?

          And you trust that?? I

          I live in Finland, qe have very strict food regulations, but no, I don’t completely trust it. But for well rated high quality restaurants, yeah, mostly.

          d, up to and including adding restaurants without their knowledge or consent.

          Again this is nothing to do with the tech and that isn’t happening country. What youre against is shit business practice, exploitation and abusing new tech.

          Now without too much into any sort of politics, a lot of restaurants are immigrant run, and especially here in Finland, there is a language barrier. And it doesn’t help that most Finns are asshat racists so people feel even less comfortable asking if they got something wrong.

          I used to order on the phone all the time as I was doing it before these apps ever came along. So many fucker orders.

          I do oppose the abuse and exploitation that poorly regulated food service apps enable, but I’m not against the actual tech.

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            2 hours ago

            Their business model isn’t necessarily functional

            Start here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aFsfJYWpqII

            Obviously if you say “just ignore shitty businesses and practices, the fundamental idea of being able to order from an app is great”…well, sure. I’m not arguing about the idea of apps. I’m arguing about the current status quo.

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              1 hour ago

              I have never once said “ignore the shitty business practices”.

              I’m saying the underlying tech will remain, and that it is good. That episode was bad. I’ve seen it. But let me tell you, the working condition of the people here in the Nordic are somewhat different. The companies are still shit heads and there are problems but thrive already won the right for the rights of employees, instead of being contractors.

              I. Like you. Am against bad business practice and exploitation. Not against tech when it can be used for good.

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                58 minutes ago

                What about the technology that runs food delivery services do you find so compelling? I don’t see what’s so special about any of it.