I’d like to start a discussion about TV privacy in 2023. I’ve never been interested in having a TV, but recently I was thinking of getting one. Looking into it, the privacy implications seem horrible. All the major brands seem to have cameras, microphones, and content recognition software. I can’t believe how dystopian it is.

I also notice that most of the articles about this are from a few years ago. Are things better now? Do they still collect an Orwellian amount of data?

As I understand it, there are a few mitigation options:

  1. Leave it disconnected from the internet and use a separate device for streaming. But it sounds like some brands have incessant nag screens, or disable features until connected to the internet. I was looking into the Samsung Frame TV, but I’m not even sure you can use the art mode without internet. Does anyone know?
  2. Pi-hole set up with a blocklist. It’s disheartening that such a technical solution would be necessary.
  3. Get a commercial “dumb” display. These are more expensive, and usually thicker.
  4. Go through the menu and disable privacy violating settings. Does this work? I’m doubtful.

edit: Just to be clear, I am NOT talking about the normal sort of ad tracking that happens when you use streaming services. Netflix knows what you’re watching regardless of what device you use. I’m talking about stuff like a hidden camera recording your facial reactions, microphones recording your private conversations, and screen recording of your viewing activities. This is sci-fi dystopia level creepy.

  • InEnduringGrowStrong@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, a PC monitor and a separate device connected to it is probably much less bullshit.

    Pihole is nice to have regardless of TVs.

    Commercial displays are usually very overpriced, although if you can get a good deal that could be nice.

    Not sure I’d “trust” any such menu.

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      1 year ago

      I thought PC monitors would be higher priced than commercial displays, but I haven’t really looked into it. It sounds like I should get a pihole either way.

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        1 year ago

        I’ve never bought a TV. I’ve used computer screens for the past 30 years because you can sit closer to them, they’re higher quality, and they do just one thing.

        In the 90s, I had a HiFi VCR plugged into my monitor.

        In answer to the original question: yes, you can, but you’re unlikely to. Today’s TVs are subsidized by invading your privacy and selling the data. Anyone not doing that couldn’t compete in the market.