• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Ahhhh, I found the mistake. You’re assuming when I say “we” I mean “Democrats”. No no no.

    We, left leaning folk, need to join the Democratic party, and once WE are in, we change the Democrats to something useful.

    Third parties can’t work. The Republicans are way too far off ideologically. So the only tool we have is Democrats. Let’s use them.

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      19 days ago

      What would joining consist of?

      Register as Democrats? Vote whoever they tell you to vote for?

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        19 days ago

        Supporting is not joining.

        Join them. Progressives need to run for local office as Dems. Join Dem committees. Canvas for them. Get to know them. Check out “Run For Something” to get involved.

        If you want real change it involves leaving the house and talking to people and being present and available.

        You can also vote in their primaries for progressives, if you prefer the less impactful “support” route. But then you’re just supporting the people who are doing the joining.

        You can’t really complain if there are no progressive or left Dems to support if you as a progressive/left person aren’t joining either.

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          19 days ago

          Couldn’t you say the same for the Republicans, or any party for that matter? ie, “Join them and if enough people like you join them they’ll change.”

          Realistically, some new political operator isn’t going to get any relevant positions. And nobody with the relevant positions will listen to a new political operator.

          That may work in theory but it’s basically saying to create a new Demcratic party from within.

          • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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            18 days ago

            Democrats are more closely aligned today. The work would be easier. But sure.

            This is a consequence of the two party system. You could dismantle that, but I think dismantling would require running one of the parties.