When I started linux, I heard creating seperate user accounts for specific uses only is a good step to security in linux. I haven’t tried it but after seeing concerns regarding some game launchers snooping around the os, I am trying to see how hard will it be to not let them. I only know the basics of user creation through GUI.

I wont be running games by the way, but I want to have this knowledge of user accounts in linux as a linux security enthusiast. I just want to create a user account where only apps or packages will run with no root access or access to outside its home folder. Even installing apps or packages should not require root to install and must be installed in that home folder and not /usr/bin or /lib. Should be like sandbox environment. I have complete control of permisions and processes of the app. Dont say about flatpak or virtual machines, not talking about that here, just plain old linux.

Note that I am not doing this out of paronoia but as a security enthusiast. I have heard about firejail, SE linux, and WhonixOS but just scratched the surface of it.

How should I do this? I need some sources to read all about linux user accounts.

  • nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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    22 days ago

    You can limit what a given package has access to with kernel based security package profiles for packages like apparmor, selinux, smack or tomoyo. Someone with root access can change this but it can be helpful at preventing someone from gaining that access in the first place.

  • khalil@beehaw.org
    9·
    22 days ago

    First and foremost, you are outright dismissing Flatpak, which accomplishes all of your goals pretty much, with a vague desire to use “plain old Linux” instead of a proper motivation. You should really stop and ask yourself, WHY not Flatpak? What do you actually want, and why is Flatpak not the answer to that?

    I point this out first because then in the next paragraph you mention some tools such as Firejail. Which is attempting to do more or less the same as flatpak, but in a more crude/less polished form. And neither Flatpak or Firejail are “plain linux”, they’re just fancy wrappers around a whole bunch of actual “Linux features”, like namespaces, seccomp, cgroups, users, chroot, filesystem permissions, and other higher-level tools such as bubblewrap (in the case of flatpak).

    So, do you want to learn the underlying primitives/underlying tooling? If so, start with users, filesystem permissions, and Linux namespaces and the other Linux features I’ve listed.

    Or do you want to just deploy applications in a sandboxed environment? If so, use Flatpak/Firejail/Snap/Linux containers such as Podman or Docker, etc. Then manage permissions using Flatseal (in the case of flatpak), and you’re done.

    How should I do this? I need some sources to read all about linux user accounts.

    You should stick with trusted sources such as TLDP, Redhat/Fedora docs, Archlinux Wiki, Gentoo Wiki, etc. For example, regarding users:

    • LifeLemons@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      2·
      22 days ago

      Thanks for response!

      Well not every app is in flatpak. Like steam gives you a .deb to download and not a flatpak. Only for this reason I said “dont say about flatpak”. I would definetly use flatpak where ever possible. I was simply asking for help in linux permsions and users in case I cant run app in flatpak. It isn’t a vague desire for “plain old linux” but instead a desire for when flatpaks arent possible, I need to do the same for it with plain linux.

      But now I understand that these tools I mentioned arent really plain linux like I thought. I should have asked the question properly Also I didnt know firejail was like flatpak though.

      So I now understand what to ask exactly.

      I want to learn underlying tools which apps like flatpak and firejail use. Mainly the user permssions and filesystem permissions. Dont want to learn the application themseleves but want to do myself what these applications do in behind the scenes.

      Thanks for the sources though!

  • Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
    9·
    22 days ago

    I have two apparmor profiles targeting shell scripts, which can run other programs. One is “audit” (permissive with logging) and the other is “safe” (enforcing).

    The safe profile still has a lot of read access, but not to any directories or files with secrets or private data. Write access is only to the paths and files it needs, and I regularly extend it.

    For a specific program that should have very restricted network access, I have some iptables (& ip6tables) rules that only apply to a particular gid, and I have a setgid wrapper script.

    Note: This is all better than nothing, but proper segregation would be better. Running things on separate PCs, VMs or even unpriviliged containers.

    • LifeLemons@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      1·
      22 days ago

      I have heard a lot of this apparmor but don’t know anything about it. I know the name explains it, but what is it exactly? What does it do?

      Also you say as if creating profiles and users are different? Isn’t creating user accounts same as creating a new profile in linux, or am I confusing with profiles which are in apparmor?

      Would appreciate some articles and tutorials regarding apparmor

      • Joe@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        22 days ago

        An apparmor profile is associated with an executable, based on its filesystem path. I think distributions tend to support either SELinux or Apparmor, but some (like Arch) support both.

        Apparmor profiles are easier to reason about than SELinux, I find.

        • nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
          3·
          22 days ago

          @jbloggs777 @LifeLemons While it’s true distributions tend to choose apparmor or selinux by default (apparmor in the case of debian derived OS’s and selinux in the case of Redhat derived OS’s), all four are actually supported by the kernel and most distros include all in their repositories it’s just that those come installed by default.