• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      Back when we were doing quadratic equations; I wrote a program on my TI-84 that would ask which parts of the equation you already had, and would fill in the rest for you.

      My teacher liked it so much he bought a transfer cable for those calculators so he could get a copy for himself. Then used to to grade tests.

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        I did the same thing. It was allowed in general, with the correct thought, “if you can code it yourself, you know the content”

        I had another “program” that would fail to run but that’s because I wrote notes into it. Doubt that was allowed.

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          Oh god I remember doing that too. Those “programs” were the best. I even mad sure to make the code long, so that even if someone thought to take a look at the code they would have to scroll for a while to find the notes.

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            Oh I would have been so pissed. I was programming on my calculator 24/7 instead of my classes.

            I wrote a sudoku “editor”

            I put that in quotes because I had a grid that could be navigated, arrows moved, storing the numbers, had number entry down. And when it was time to implement the solver, I learned the hard way what p vs np is.

          • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            They did that here too, but students would use a cheat program that made it look like teachers were resetting it, but really the memory was safe

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              I don’t remember if they fully closed the loopholes, but there are inputs that programs cannot catch unless you actually replace the OS.

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                My memory is pretty hazy but the cheat application emulated the process that teachers used to do a system reset.

                Iirc, it let you press menu, select reset, confirm, and showed the (fake) confirmation screen.

                Also IIRC, you had to install it from Mirage OS, which I don’t think was an OS (?) but rather an app that everyone had to play games from.

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        3 months ago

        I made one to decompose polynomials it was very good because it showed all the steps it was literally just copy what’s on the calc to the page

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    3 months ago

    What would happen if now plug in another calculator? AFAIK that only a P2P connection and never meant for >2 parties.

  • Bobby Turkalino@lemmy.yachts
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    Ok but calculators are only allowed in math class and if there’s one thing language models suck at, it’s doing basic math. Forget anything at least as complicated as algebra

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    “ChatGPT what is the formula for Work Done in an enclosed system expressed as a triple integral?”

    “42”

    “Ok cool ty.”

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      3 months ago

      I wonder what can counter this except banning it, or provide calculators to students instead of using their own.

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      They added wifi with a extra circuit board hidden inside the calculator case. It’s connected to the calculators communication port, and pretends to be another calculator. So they can use the calculator’s built in “send” function to send variables/text/etc to the hidden card, which then uses it’s internet connection to look up answers and send the results back.

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    Utilizing the tools available to you to solve problems is not cheating, its resourcefulness, and using your brain. Which is of course frowned upon in schools that exist to churn out mindless drones for corporate enslavement.

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      Idk, if there is one thing it does consistently well its standardized tests.

      Not that it can be used in any non mathematical class and if teachers do actually pay attention.

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          It’s not a WiFi model, a custom module was hidden inside the calculator to provide the WiFi connection.

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            Ah yup should’ve read the article lol. That’s a whole lot of work and effort into cheating, which probably won’t work? Needs a whole thing to it sounds like plug into the link port? Which would stick out… so like… idk MAYBE they are stupid and don’t notice but like… I wouldn’t bet my life on that.

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              Because the phrase “Cheaters never prosper” isn’t actually true. There are many executives, politicians and rich people that very very likely “cheated” at some point along the way to get where they are, multiple times probably.

              Hell, I wouldn’t even be surprised if such phrases were spread by the rich/ruling class/whatever as just another thing to keep people divided lol

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              There’s a video in the article showing the whole process. The new module was completely hidden inside the calculators case and soldered to the internal connections.

              Until you actually open it up, it doesn’t look abnormal at all.

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          “C’s get degrees, and here’s the tease: no one’s asking for transcripts, just expertise.”

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                My senior dev was asked for his transcript and he’s been in the field for 25+years. He told them to get in touch with his college that doesn’t exist anymore. Suspect it’s a standard set of forms they need to fill.

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    Its been quite a while since I’ve taken a proctored exam, but then all the proctors would clear all the memory on your calc before they’d let you use it for test. Is that not the case anymore?

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      Depends on the exam. Some don’t even allow programmable calcs because they don’t want to deal with possible shit like this. I have already seen a certification exam where they provide the calculators as well.

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    Yeah, nobody in class is going to suspect the kid with the arduino-type science project mess of wires duct taped to their calculator.

    For those too lazy to read, that’s how this works. An external micro controller talks to the calc through the IO port, and does the Wifi stuff, acting as a middleman.

    Edit: I did not see the video.

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      I saw the video. It closes up nicely and is invisible. It can even re-download the programs if wiped before by the teacher.