Once you try Vim you will never use another text editor. Or any other program for that matter because you won’t be able to exit.
I also had that experience with emacs, which has a built in help system. I couldn’t find a topic on ‘exit’ or ‘quit’ and refused to just search online.
Took me half an hour.
and refused to just search online
Unless you were f*cked by your ISP as I am right now, that’s having some balls. Or being masochist. But nothing in between
I’m editor bilingual but im a bit rusty in Emacs, so skill check: its C-x C-c right?
Yes. Though I believe it only kills the current frame if there are multiple
nano just works for me man
I liked Micro just a little bit more than Nano
I tried Micro and I found that its just Nano with a better interface and much easier to use. Its great actually but I like the vim movements.
Getting used to vim has made nano unusable for me. The muscle memory is too strong. That and all of the regex and plugin features (ex. LSP) are just too useful.
If I wanted to hear about what’s good about Vim, should I:
a) ask what’s good about vim
-OR-
b) assert blindly that there is nothing good about vim so fanboys will come crawling out of the walls tripping over each other to tell me how I’m wrong?
Doesn’t matter we will tell you either way.
- Instead of simply shortcuts, vim uses “chords”. Every new shortcut I learn can be combined intuitively* with all the other shortcuts I know.
- Because of this there’s no faster way to edit files than Vim in the hands of an experienced user.
- this let’s me spend almost no time editing code, freeing up the rest of my time for swearing at piss poor documentation.
* I use “intuitively” here in a way that not merely stretches, but outright abuses the definition of the word.
It’s intuitive if your previous editor was ed(1) and you’re using an ADM-3A-like keyboard.
You shouldn’t talk about vim at all! Just write that vscode is the most flexible code editor.
I’ve seen vscode fill up home directories unnecessarily when run on the machine directly as well as remotely!
IMO vscode is a perfect example of recent software that looks great from a features pov but horrible from an efficient implementation pov. I loved it until I hated it.
Don’t use Microsoft’s version. Use Vscodium! :)
To add to your line of query, what if I don’t give a shit about writing code and I just use Linux as a casual laptop user? I’ve never looked at vim or emacs, I use Kate and OnlyOffice
They’re both fine choices.
Vim has been around long enough that I’ve found anything I want to figure out how to do has been discussed many times on various places around the internet and have yet to fail to find what I’m looking for with a search.
alias vim=“nano”
alias vim=nvim
alias vi=nvim
alias nano=nvim
alias emacs=nvim
alias code=nvimexport EDITOR=nvim
export VISUAL=nvim
export PAGER=nvim
This, but Emacs
This, but Emacs
Nooo not the pinky ! :(
(setq evil-mode 'pinky)
With evil installed
HELL naw
Might as well just use Vim then
Org-mode in Emacs is the best though. That is why i use Emacs with Evil.
Helix <3
Yeah hx. It was hx that finally made me use vi style navigation and now I choose vim over nano almost always.
I’m halfway between hx and vim, I vastly prefer the helix/kakoune philosophy of selection, then action over vim, but I’m dearly missing plug-in support for Helix
I was going to point to visual.nvim as a possible middle ground, but it’s now archived :(
Disclaimer: I haven’t actually tested it myself
I’m just gonna be patient. Vanilla Helix is very much usable for everything I need it for at the moment, with built in LSP support, and plug-in support is on the horizon. Not sure when exactly, but it’s gonna happen eventually
Yeah I’m with you there, vanilla helix meets basically 90% of my needs so I’m not in any real rush to change
Still don’t like it.
Repeat as necessary.
qa Ienjoy<ESC>q 200@a
Why would I subject myself to unnecessary suffering?
One must imagine you happy
Also; Don’t use vim.
Yeah, neovim is better
😂
i haven’t tried it but I’m sick of ubuntu being years behind on vim versions, what’s good about neovim?
I’ll stick with my trusty Emacs (and Zile)
What about notepad++ under wine?
Notepadqq is basically an exact clone of Notepad++ but native on Linux.
I used it for a good while before recently switching to Kate.
Haven’t heard about Notepadqq. How different is it from Kate?
Pretty much just a different GUI, If you ever used Notepad++ it’s the same as that.
I’m trying… I’m trying real hard to be the shepherd ringo.
May I introduce you to our Savior Helix?
In the meantime I’m happy with Kate.
I’m too used to using notepad++ that I would rather use Kate than learn how to properly use vi(m).
Notepadqq on linux
Aw, I’m sure she’s happy with you too . ❤️
Genuinely took most of my notes in college on vim, when you get good it’s just faster.
I’m sure someone already made a graph plotting the hours wasted learning vs the seconds gained not moving your mouse.
Nice.
I’ve been using Vim daily for about 20 years, it saves me 30 minutes at a time regularly.
I’m approaching break-even on the learning curve!
I’m kidding…mostly.
This. If it was your sole tool for daily tasks it makes sense, once a month to edit a config file…not so much.
When I started working we had HP Unix Silicon Graphics systems, VI was our only text editor…so I have some commands as muscle memory. The rest of commands I open my tractor feed help printout from 30 years ago
If you don’t like Vim, you should stop being a milk-drinking sweetroll-eating WUSS
But I love both vim and milk 🥺🥺🥺
ed is the standard text editor.