It’s one of the more secure clients. It has E2E across everything: DMs, Group chats, phone calls, video calls and all.
In contrast, Telegram, which is often championed doesn’t even support E2E for group chats. Laughable.
Yes, Whatsapp does some on-device analytics for advertising purposes, but your message is always E2E encrypted before sending.
They had multiple 3P audits to prove it.
Some delusional people use Facebook messenger instead claiming both are FB anyway. NO. FB messenger doesn’t have any encryption. Your messages are stored in plain text.
Yes, Signal and Matrix etc. are better, but no one is using them and that goes against the very idea of communication.
I know that they allegedly use the Signal proctol, but I find it hard to trust since not even the client is open source, even if their protocol is what they say it is, the keys could be harvested without issue, which is probably what happens when you use the reporting feature that allows them to read a piece of the message history, and they could still log your text input while typing. Of course, no way to verify neither their claims nor our theories.
#but no one is using them
Agreed, I did convince a fair few people, but it’s not always easy
Telegram is a superior messaging app but it’s privacy is questionable. The fact that they keep their encryption protocol hidden is bothersome and they aren’t e2ee by default. And as stated before, it’s not certain their e2ee is as private as they claim.
Yeah telegram may be better but the amount of people who use it is very few, the only people I know uses telegram is for porn or download movies and song, not for messaging. In the actual state telegram doesn’t worth it because probably you circle of friends doesn’t use it. Of course this is the case of my friends and my country (Colombia) where it’s more probably find one to use WhatsApp than telegram
Its privacy is very questionable, but how is it outdated?
How is the privacy questionable?
It’s one of the more secure clients. It has E2E across everything: DMs, Group chats, phone calls, video calls and all.
In contrast, Telegram, which is often championed doesn’t even support E2E for group chats. Laughable.
Yes, Whatsapp does some on-device analytics for advertising purposes, but your message is always E2E encrypted before sending.
They had multiple 3P audits to prove it.
Some delusional people use Facebook messenger instead claiming both are FB anyway. NO. FB messenger doesn’t have any encryption. Your messages are stored in plain text.
Yes, Signal and Matrix etc. are better, but no one is using them and that goes against the very idea of communication.
I know that they allegedly use the Signal proctol, but I find it hard to trust since not even the client is open source, even if their protocol is what they say it is, the keys could be harvested without issue, which is probably what happens when you use the reporting feature that allows them to read a piece of the message history, and they could still log your text input while typing. Of course, no way to verify neither their claims nor our theories.
Agreed, I did convince a fair few people, but it’s not always easy
Telegram laughs in the corner Whatsapp is copying telegram features that are implemented years before
Telegram is a superior messaging app but it’s privacy is questionable. The fact that they keep their encryption protocol hidden is bothersome and they aren’t e2ee by default. And as stated before, it’s not certain their e2ee is as private as they claim.
IIRC they did publish their encryption protocol, at least a lot of information about it is here. It’s true E2EE is not enabled by default.
In the end, both encryption protocols are hidden. We can’t really be sure they use what they say they are using in both cases.
TG has become a very big source of Piracy in recent years.
People only use TG for that mostly at this point.
It’s copying features that hangouts has abandon.
Sorry, I don’t have Twitter, I tried opening the profile, but it keeps blocking me, even Nitter and Squawker don’t work
Edit: uhh, why did you edit out asking me to look up Telegram X’s Twitter profile? Now I look dumb lol
Yeah telegram may be better but the amount of people who use it is very few, the only people I know uses telegram is for porn or download movies and song, not for messaging. In the actual state telegram doesn’t worth it because probably you circle of friends doesn’t use it. Of course this is the case of my friends and my country (Colombia) where it’s more probably find one to use WhatsApp than telegram