Every search you make, email you send, text message, voice chat, location, and most likely the conversations you have in your own home are monitored and stored in a database for whoever knows how long (probably forever). When I hear land of the free, I immediately think bullshit. We are slowly losing our freedoms, what can we do to prevent this? I mean, when Edward Snowden dropped the leaks, people protested, but barely anything changed. What can we do? This post not only applies to Americans, your own government in another country may possibly does the same thing. Feel free to comment!

  • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.de
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    The Founders were among history’s monsters and you need to stop trying to protect their legacy by painting us with their brush. Chattel slavery was a uniquely horrible institution and its end mattered.

    Dude, I’m German. I know a thing or two about facing the past. So don’t act like I’m defending anyone.

    I didn’t choose to enslave anyone and I have no power to free them.

    As far as I know, only about a third of people in the US back then ever owned slaves. The other two thirds didn’t choose that either. Yet most of them got complacent for a pretty long time.

    Also, you do have a choice. You can buy clothes that are maybe not morally pure, but at least better. You could buy a Fairphone. You could become politically active or at least vote for the better candidates/parties. Sure, that won’t turn the world into utopia over night, but at least you can make it a bit better.

    We all have to face the fact that our actions and inactions cause suffering, and some of that is indeed not in our power to change. But your stance of essentially giving up and pointing at the other crime as ever worse is hypocritical.

    As Adorno said: there’s no right living in the wrong. And we are so wrong currently the slave population in this world is higher than ever in the US: https://www.un.org/en/delegate/50-million-people-modern-slavery-un-report

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      As far as I know, only about a third of people in the US back then ever owned slaves.

      Okay? We’re talking about the Founders, and they owned slaves. They were directly responsible for it, they had their own plantations. Comparing that to bystanders and voting and buying local and being complacent is absurd.

      Are you perhaps under the impression that all Americans in 1776 were Founders? Because generally when USians talk about our Founders we’re talking about the people at the Constitutional Convention and terroist organizations like the Sons of Liberty.

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        Are you perhaps under the impression that all Americans in 1776 were Founders

        Are you perhaps under the impression that us stupid Europeans don’t know what you’re talking about?

        Comparing that to bystanders and voting and buying local and being complacent is absurd

        Again, I’m German. I’ve heard that excuse before.