• rockSlayer@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s awesome! I’d be curious to know which industrial union they’re a part of, I love learning about labor movements in other countries. I’m from the US so when I say unionize, it’s more comparable to a worker council. But the crazy shit you might have heard about like captive audience meetings, firing organizers, and anti-union onboarding absolutely happen. It’s an uphill battle for sure.

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      2 months ago

      What im about to say applies to belgium, and i dont know about other countries or companies or how it works if a company from another country has a base in belgium, so take everything i say with a pinch of salt.
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      In belgium every company with more than x amount of employees ( i think its either 50 or 100 ) must have a worker council meeting every month and have worker council member votings every few years, to select what employee will join said meetings with a select few people of the heads of the company. The members are people who have joined a union ( which is just being registered, has nothing to do with your job and which union depends on the job and your political views. Each union is large enough to cause mayhem and force talks ) and have put themselves forward to be in those meetings.
      After said voting, the representatives are selected and join the meetings.
      While the representative is selected him or her can not be easily fired or laid off. While they are registered at a union they also can not be fired without a valid reason, as that would get the company investigated.

      So overall here what union doesnt mean that much, but the process is more important.

      I would also like to point out that i love this whole thing, even if ive worked with a complete asshat that was the workers representative and seriously needed to be fired because he did his actual job (handyman) terribly. The fact he was in those meetings meant the workers were represented and im sure he did that part right as he kept being voted for.

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      They’re part of ver.di, although that in itself skips a whole host of details that I personally don’t all know either. But yeah over here plenty unions are local in a company, too. But they also got strong legal protections (and some obligations), so apart from the shakey time when you’re forming a union, they’re on stable ground.

      Some others - like ver.di - are large cross-business union aggregations that centralize their decisionmaking process and then can strike on multiple divergent businesses at the same time to force business owners to come to the table. From what I know from people who are in such companies, upsides and downsides. They got a lot of pull, but in return their demands are often rather generic which is good if you just care about pay, but bad if you want things more specific to your work.

      But again, totally not an expert about unions.