• Petter1@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Apple‘s solution does not require 200gb of screenshots where most personal info is visible in plain text… Apple wins here because they have a clear structure in their OS and all important data already in Apple‘s own Apps. And they analyze this stuff already very much as one can see with all the Siri suggestions everywhere since, I don’t know 5 years? microsoft‘s chaos approach in their Windows is now shooting them in their foot real hard.

    I hope, that we can get a open source linuxAI to be run locally, that integrates like AppleAI. Should be better possible since, at least, all apps are installed mostly the same way(s) and are designed to be dependent on each other.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not saying anything particularly new and I’m mostly repeating what I’ve been saying since tghe announcement, but I’d argue that all of those caveats are entirely down to branding and PR and not engineering.

      App design, yes. Microsoft made their Timeline 2 so that it actually shows you in the UI all the screenshots that it took from you doing stuff and that’s creepy. Apple doesn’t tell you what they’re pulling and they are almost certainly processing it further to get deeper insights… but they do it in the background so you don’t have to think about it as much.

      So again, better understanding of the user, messaging and branding. Same fundamental functionality. Way different reactions.

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        3 months ago

        Yes, but apple doesn’t need to screenshot shit, thats the point, they trained their customers to only use apple apps, where they have full control and force developers to use their AI API to stay relevant.

        Microsoft failed to convince user to use microsoft everywhere except with teams and the office suite

        Google has the relevant data of most microsoft user, and screenshoting this (like scraping) would have allowed microsoft to get to that data without paying google for it

        But that is kinda shady and thus not widely accepted.

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          But they do, though.

          The use cases they have presented are literally asking for a picture you received last week that contained a particular piece of text, selecting the text and copying it over.

          I know Apple made it seem like AI is magic, but here in the real world that uses real world computers you need to know what’s on the image to do that.

          But hey, no, that’s my point. You understand what taking a screenshot of your desktop looks like. You can grok that to the extent that you can feel weird about the idea of somebody doing that to you every five seconds. You can’t wrap your head around the steps of breaking down all your information to the extent Apple is describing. Yeah, they know exactly what you did and when, and what you looked at and what it said and how it relates to everybody you know and to your activity. But since you can’t intuitively understand what that requires you don’t know enough to feel weird about it.

          That right there is good UX, even if the ultimate level of intrusion is the same or higher.