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      That’s the service’s problem. VCRs and DVRs had ad-block ages ago, and those were commercial products sold at regular retail stores, so it’s totally a non-issue.

      An ad-blocker just means I’m not running optional extras. The web server says, “please display X, Y, and Z,” and the ad-blocker says, “nah to Y and Z, but I’ll render X.” It’s the same idea as safe-search filters to block websites, but it runs within “trusted” pages instead of just blocking certain domains.

      It’s the same with sponser blockers, but I personally don’t use them and prefer to manually skip them instead unless the creator generally has good recs (e.g. I often watch them once/twice on Gamers Nexus, because they only recommend good products, but block the others).

      Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share. Ad-block just blocks content you don’t want to see. Those are not the same thing at all.

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        Piracy is sharing content that you don’t have the rights to share.

        I’d classify watching something on piracysite.com as piracy.

        I’d also class bypassing Netflix’s login requirements to watch their catalogue as piracy. But I guess that’s more a semantics thing.

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          Sure, because in those cases you’re gaining access to content that you don’t have permission to access.

          Ad-block isn’t that, it’s just blocking content you don’t want. You still have permission to the content.

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            6 months ago

            You don’t have permission to modify any of the content YouTube sends you.

            https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#eb887a967c

            Section: Permissions and Restrictions Point 2

            circumvent, disable, fraudulently engage, or otherwise interfere with the Service (or attempt to do any of these things), including security-related features or features that: (a) prevent or restrict the copying or other use of Content; or (b) limit the use of the Service or Content;

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              Yes, it’s a violation of their TOS, but TOS is often illegal anyway.

              I’m not modifying any of the content they send, I’m merely not rendering it. That’s a very different thing. It’s just like blocking fonts (I do that too), if I don’t want an asset, I won’t download it. If they want to block me because I’m blocking part of their page from loading, that’s on them.

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                but TOS is often illegal anyway.

                Piracy isn’t only a legal thing. It’s just dealt with through the legal system.

                I’m not modifying any of the content

                Sorry, I was wrong. You are however circumventing YouTube’s playing ads.

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                  Yes, I’m violating their TOS, but I also never signed their TOS agreement. I don’t use a YouTube account, I just access their webpage. Nothing here is illegal, I’m just not rendering content that I don’t want to see. I have no legal obligation here. Google doesn’t get to decide what gets run on my machine, I do. If they don’t want me to view their content, they should lock it behind a paywall or something.

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                    I’ve not argued any of those points. Just that not watching ads on YouTube is piracy.

                    In the UK, piracy isn’t a legally defined term, and the way that I would define piracy as the illegitimate procurement of media.