• CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
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    7 months ago

    you also need to remember that this is literally a turn key product, that literally every cloud provider sells

    I am unaware of server products that I can just buy, plug in, and get up and running in minutes with my own ActivityPub instances, media storage/streaming, XMPP messaging, and etc. If they really exist, please share links.

    There’s certainly value in doing this stuff the hard way, but the goal should be for self-hosting to be as easy as signing up with Google, Facebook, Spotify, etc. There aren’t enough people with the time and curiosity to figure out the current state of self-hosting and make a dent in the three website problem.

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      7 months ago

      im not saying they do exist, i’m saying that what you’re talking about, is something that doesn’t exist, for good reason. Because this is literally already a market place that has done it’s job.

      XMPP? Discord, it’s literally discord. Storage and streaming? The cloud, netflix, etc. It’s already a thing.

      There aren’t enough people with the time and curiosity to figure out the current state of self-hosting and make a dent in the three website problem.

      and yet, here we are, on lemmy. Funny how that works. You simply have to be willing to put in time and effort if you want to reap the benefits. You simply can’t wish for everything to be handed to you on a silver platter.

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        7 months ago

        Jellyfin and Yunohost are two projects that have simplified self-hosting and made it accessible for me. I just think more progress can be made in that direction.

        and yet, here we are, on lemmy.

        As far as I can tell, you are not self-hosting the Divisions by Zero Lemmy instance, so I’m not sure what your point is there. I am actually self-hosting my lemmy.crimedad.work instance with the help of Yunohost.

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          7 months ago

          I just think more progress can be made in that direction.

          I don’t disagree, but a big problem with jellyfin specifically, is that it’s just kind of a mess, don’t get me wrong, great piece of software, super functional, and works really well. but it’s also kind of fucking messy client side transcoding is still rather confusing, and some would be pretty nice UI and user elements simply don’t exist right now.

          I think i would prefer a more featured rather bare bones system that requires a higher level of configuration, than something with less features, that ships what is ostensibly the minimum viable product, while being plug and play. Having good features is often going to make software better, even if it’s harder to use.

          As far as I can tell, you are not self-hosting the Divisions by Zero Lemmy instance, so I’m not sure what your point is there. I am actually self-hosting my lemmy.crimedad.work instance with the help of Yunohost.

          i am not, no, and that’s kind of my point. Not everybody has to self host their own individual instance, one person can host an instance of something for hundreds, maybe thousands of people. I simply do not think that you need that many people actively interested in this.

          The entire world runs on software programming, yet the entire population is not programmers, it must follow that we will be fine without everybody liking this stuff.