• slurpyslop@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    why would you assume a change of policy at all over any timescale if you keep electing people propping up a genocide?

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      Did ya fucken read my comment, most Americans werent aware of the genocide up until relatively recently. Even then traction against Israel has only built up within less than a fucken year, and I shall restate that the US has been backing Israel for longer than most people have been alive at this point. Why the fuck would you expect substantial change before theres even been an election.

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        6 months ago

        why would you expect substantial change at any point if you re-elect a party after they spent a year propping up a genocide?

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          Bit of a shit situation is what I call it, we have two parties who are worth shit. One is violently genocidal both at home and abroad, while the other is only mildly genocidal abroad. Sorry to break it to you mate but there is only one effective choice.

          And before ya come at me, imma just gonna point out that I fucken hate this fact. Im a socialist Redneck my ilk have been dealing with shit deals for over a hundred years, but the reason there are socialist Rednecks still around is cause pragmatism is a far more effective tool than throwing a hissy fit and checking out.

          I dont like the shit pie but its far more effective than standing up and letting the shaped charage under my ass go off.

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            6 months ago

            continuing to vote for the mildly genocidal party is not going to make the mildly genocidal party less genocidal

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              It can if ya vote in the primaries. The fact of the matter is that the parties didnt switch back in the 50s for no reason. The people winning the primaries swapped.

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                6 months ago

                an incumbent has literally never lost a primary

                biden was always more or less guaranteed to be the democratic nominee if he wanted to be

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                  And your fucken point. Shit can change it just takes work. Though in this case it was quite unlikely, but nothing is stagnant perhaps if given enough work and the right circumstances we’ll get a socdem as president. But alas I am simply reiterating my point.

                  I will reiterate one of my previous points, Trump and his ilk are genocidal both at home and abroad, and frankly speaking those folks in Palestine were fucked the second the old Palestinian organizations were surplanted by Hamas. This means to me that the math is simple genocide at home and abroad or no genocide at home and a possible cessation of said genocide abroad. It may seem shit but the math is pretty clear on what needs to be done.

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                    6 months ago

                    the math is pretty clear

                    for the immediate next election cycle, yes

                    for the next time there’s a palestine, very much no