I think any and all comparisons of modern smartphones are worthless beyond personal preference. All of these phones do massive amounts of filtering and post processing which makes any direct technical comparison a waste of time. With equal exposure you could get either of these results with either phone by taking the raw image and doing the right editing.
Comparisons are helpful to find which matches my preferences, and it’s helpful to know which phone will process the images in a way that I can get images I like without doing the processing myself.
Yeah thats what i meant, ofcourse you wanna pick the phone that takes images in a way you like, but from a technical point of view its just hard to get real numbers.
I don’t know about other phones, but you can turn basically all of that off with a single tap on an iPhone (“raw”). I imagine other phones have ways to adjust those settings as well. It’s hardly a waste of time.
If you shoot your videos in prores it also drastically changes what you can do in post because the color depth is basically what I get out of professional cameras.
So yeah, I get what you mean, modern smart phones are all pretty good at what they do and a lot of them do a ton behind the scenes on your images. But different ones have different features and they do not all look the same. I’m not even sure if any smart phones do ProRes besides the iPhone (it’s an Apple codec)
It may be a poor artist that blames his tools, but a good artist definitely knows the differences between them. No matter how slight they may appear.
Raw image taking has been around for a long time now, even on smartphones. I’m not sure how processed regular raw shots are on iPhones, but ProRAW pictures are a combination of raw and regular processed pictures according to Apple
I didn’t say it was new I just said you can do it. And yes, it is somewhat of a hybrid, but the point is it gives you a lot more information so you can dial back or increase elements you want.
There is no digital camera in the world that “just takes a picture” so we’re just splitting hairs here anyway. The sensor, processor, etc. “make decisions“ that impact your image. Raw codecs try to capture as much information as possible so that professionals or people with time can go in and select out what they want in their image or mute the things they don’t want.
A mate had an iPhone while I was doing this, they asked me to try the same thing with theirs. Gotta say with both my phones I just set them in a steady spot and selected night shot. Didn’t have that option on the iPhone that I could see, but that might be me not knowing how to use it.
My bad, they automatically set the exposure. At the same position it did about 4 seconds exposure and looked a bit darker than the pixel. Will post if they figure out how to send the photo to me.
They can dial in the exposure time if they want. I usually set it to 10s and then have it do a 2s delay before starting exposure so I can tap and set it down.
Yeah the Pixel does stacking and other processing. It can produce similar shots with much shorter exposures, too. It just keeps going for minutes of you let it.
I think it’s a deliberate choice to not turn night shots into day.
I think any and all comparisons of modern smartphones are worthless beyond personal preference. All of these phones do massive amounts of filtering and post processing which makes any direct technical comparison a waste of time. With equal exposure you could get either of these results with either phone by taking the raw image and doing the right editing.
Comparisons are helpful to find which matches my preferences, and it’s helpful to know which phone will process the images in a way that I can get images I like without doing the processing myself.
Yeah thats what i meant, ofcourse you wanna pick the phone that takes images in a way you like, but from a technical point of view its just hard to get real numbers.
I don’t know about other phones, but you can turn basically all of that off with a single tap on an iPhone (“raw”). I imagine other phones have ways to adjust those settings as well. It’s hardly a waste of time.
If you shoot your videos in prores it also drastically changes what you can do in post because the color depth is basically what I get out of professional cameras.
So yeah, I get what you mean, modern smart phones are all pretty good at what they do and a lot of them do a ton behind the scenes on your images. But different ones have different features and they do not all look the same. I’m not even sure if any smart phones do ProRes besides the iPhone (it’s an Apple codec)
It may be a poor artist that blames his tools, but a good artist definitely knows the differences between them. No matter how slight they may appear.
Raw image taking has been around for a long time now, even on smartphones. I’m not sure how processed regular raw shots are on iPhones, but ProRAW pictures are a combination of raw and regular processed pictures according to Apple
I didn’t say it was new I just said you can do it. And yes, it is somewhat of a hybrid, but the point is it gives you a lot more information so you can dial back or increase elements you want.
There is no digital camera in the world that “just takes a picture” so we’re just splitting hairs here anyway. The sensor, processor, etc. “make decisions“ that impact your image. Raw codecs try to capture as much information as possible so that professionals or people with time can go in and select out what they want in their image or mute the things they don’t want.
A mate had an iPhone while I was doing this, they asked me to try the same thing with theirs. Gotta say with both my phones I just set them in a steady spot and selected night shot. Didn’t have that option on the iPhone that I could see, but that might be me not knowing how to use it.
My bad, they automatically set the exposure. At the same position it did about 4 seconds exposure and looked a bit darker than the pixel. Will post if they figure out how to send the photo to me.
They can dial in the exposure time if they want. I usually set it to 10s and then have it do a 2s delay before starting exposure so I can tap and set it down.
Yeah the Pixel does stacking and other processing. It can produce similar shots with much shorter exposures, too. It just keeps going for minutes of you let it.
I think it’s a deliberate choice to not turn night shots into day.