The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to “Leftists who won’t vote” & “MAGA Republicans” teaming up to “getting revenge on liberals”.

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    7 months ago

    i have friends. i’m not scared. you aren’t going to threaten and bully me into doing something immoral.

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        Funny how libs rarely have to compromise their core values to vote for Dem candidates, while your party leadership aggressively prevents the left from gaining any purchase in the party organizational structure, but you have the gall to demand our votes while showing zero sensitivity for the left’s moral concerns about Dem projects like the ongoing extirpation of Palestinians in Gaza—not to mention the left’s very reasonable observation that concessionary voting for neolibs since Carter has created a ratcheting of American politics to the far right.

        I don’t believe Trump will break America, because the Democratic Party clearly doesn’t. No party that believed that so much was on the line would prevent a competitive primary and support a VP candidate with the lowest approval rating in history, who has no constituency behind her, when the top of the ticket is 81 years old.

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          …okay, but your argument falls apart due to the fact that I’m not a liberal.

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            If you’ve bought the lib line on voting this cycle, that’s great for you. But, you should stop shaming principled leftists like PP for not buying it.

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              If people don’t like their privilege checked, they shouldn’t post in leftist spaces.

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            Actions speak louder then words.

            “We are who we pretend to be, so we should be careful who we pretend to be.”

            If the only real political input we have is used to support the leading liberal candidate, then it’s reasonable to identify them as a ‘Liberal Voter’ regardless of who or what they claim to the contrary.

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              This whole wing of the leftist movement that accuses everybody of being a secret liberal is really stupid and I don’t feel like wasting my time engaging with somebody choosing to take the dialog to that level.

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                  Well, I would say that you should actually read Vonnegut instead of using his quotes in ways in which they weren’t intended.

                  Because I can assure you, he didn’t make that statement in support of the left shutting down productive communication with each other by accusing each other of being “closeted” liberals.

                  The close mindedness is going to make you fall victim to things worse than liberalism if you decide to not work on that current but fixable flaw.

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                    I’m a Hoosier born in Indianapolis, the same home-state as Kurt Vonnegut and Eugene Debs, and I’ve read 6 of his novels. You seem to be the misguided one in this scenario.