Now my arch is bloated more than the default ubuntu

Waffelson@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Now my arch is bloated more than the default ubuntu

Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Every person who comments about “bloat” in their install should be required to preface their post or comment with a full definition of “bloat.”

This shit is obnoxious.

cybersandwich@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

I actually wonder if we could ever agree on a definition?

Maybe:

Bloat: any unnecessary, superfluous software, software package, or feature that is unused or unnecessarily inefficient, and/or uses system resources to an unessasary or unreasonable degree.

What do you guys think? Because then we can still argue about bloat and what reasonable is! And that’s what it’s all about. Arguing for the sake of it!

muhyb@programming.dev · 7 months ago

Bloat is relative to every person / usage case but I agree with this definition.

Agility0971@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

I like this. Maybe it needs some words on bloatware that is enforced on users agains their interests?

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 7 months ago

Anything that’s not kernel

kromem@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Well, also not kernel modules. That counts as bloat.

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 7 months ago

You’re right. And how much of the kernel do we really need, anyway?

Joe Cool@lemmy.ml · 7 months ago

So GNU?

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 7 months ago

Just the G actually

CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

But the G in GNU stands for GNU

Joe Cool@lemmy.ml · 7 months ago

reminds me of this totally valid URL:

areyouevenreal@lemm.ee · 7 months ago

I mean compared to things like Alpine which use musl and busybox you could consider it bloated yes.

cybersandwich@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Bloat = making your system usable

annoying people who whine about bloat

Agility0971@lemmy.world · 7 months ago

installing more than base, linux, and linux-firmware is bloat.