I am interested to see what kind of about-face all the politicians of the world will do when this is over. Will there be strong condemnations and a new “we are the world” song? Will there be crocodile tears and strong cries of “we didn’t know it was this bad”? Will everyone just start pretending the genocide didn’t happen?
Like, they’ve made it crystal that they’re gonna kill all of em. They won’t stop, that at least is clear. So I’m asking like, how much more nothing will nations do? Will everyone keep tiptoeing around the USs pet nation? Will “genocide denier” come to mean something new?
Don’t worry, none of the people who enabled the Holocaust faced meaningful consequences for their actions, and vanishingly few of those who were active participants were condemned for anything. In the years following 1945 all collaboration with the Nazi regime was essentially pardoned for the sake of “social harmony” or whatever it was called in German. In France De Gaulle similarly said “all of France was Résistante” and commuted Pétain’s death sentence, essentially wiping clean the slate of Nazi collaborators.
In fact it’s vanishingly unlikely that you haven’t consumed, this week, several products made by companies that directly benefited from slave labor during WWII and that arguably wouldn’t exist today if they had been forced to face consequences for their crimes against humanity.
Guilt and shame are concepts only us peasants are subject to. Politicians and industrialists only deal - at most - in PR, and their response will be entirely dependent on what they calculate they can get away with.
Well, it turns out all unwavering support for a nation because of the etnicity of the people who live there (i.e. “The Jewish Nation”) is still racism and entirelly anchored in the very same racist way of thinking as was historical in the nations providing said support (it’s quite interesting how the nations which are the biggest supporters of Israel pretty much all have histories of extreme racism and genocide against other etnicities).
That whole “support for The Jewish Nation” thing could be passed as “positive” discrimination (as if the positive for some doesn’t have a complementary negative “denial of equal treatment for those not of the right etnicities”) up until the point the self-apointed representatives of the etnicity those nations discriminate in favour of, went full-on Nazi and started massacring people on etnic lines all accompanied with the same kind of wording and propaganda that Goebbels used.
That the nations doing that “positive discrimination” didn’t stop it when their support suddenly became the means for very overt, very cold anti-Palestinian and even anti-Muslim racist extreme violence, and in fact even doubled-down on Nazi-style propaganda against their own populations to defend it, for me shows how deep down at least the elites those nations never stopped being profoundly racist.
Looking at it from that point of view, the explanation for, for example, Germany’s behaviour is actually quite simple: their elites never stopped being racist and even seeing mass murder along etnic lines as acceptable, they just changed the etnic groups they favour and disfavour and became better at hidding their prejudices, at least when it came to etnicities which was not politically correct to discriminate against - if their relation towards other human beings still follows the very same mental framework as almost a century ago (only with different ubermenschen and untermenschen) their continued support of Israel, even when they go on a full-on Nazi-style genocide, is entirelly natural.
It’s not a German problem or a Jewish problem. It never was. It’s a human problem. A century from now this whole thing will be used as an aesop about that. A state founded to protect against genocide committing one before all the survivors have even passed.
I never thought I would see Israel commit its own holocaust, but here we are.
It has been going on for years. Israel murders as many Palestinians as they think they can get away with.
I never thought America and Europe and especially Germany would support it so quickly after their “regret” of the first one. But here we are.
I am interested to see what kind of about-face all the politicians of the world will do when this is over. Will there be strong condemnations and a new “we are the world” song? Will there be crocodile tears and strong cries of “we didn’t know it was this bad”? Will everyone just start pretending the genocide didn’t happen?
Like, they’ve made it crystal that they’re gonna kill all of em. They won’t stop, that at least is clear. So I’m asking like, how much more nothing will nations do? Will everyone keep tiptoeing around the USs pet nation? Will “genocide denier” come to mean something new?
Don’t worry, none of the people who enabled the Holocaust faced meaningful consequences for their actions, and vanishingly few of those who were active participants were condemned for anything. In the years following 1945 all collaboration with the Nazi regime was essentially pardoned for the sake of “social harmony” or whatever it was called in German. In France De Gaulle similarly said “all of France was Résistante” and commuted Pétain’s death sentence, essentially wiping clean the slate of Nazi collaborators.
In fact it’s vanishingly unlikely that you haven’t consumed, this week, several products made by companies that directly benefited from slave labor during WWII and that arguably wouldn’t exist today if they had been forced to face consequences for their crimes against humanity.
Guilt and shame are concepts only us peasants are subject to. Politicians and industrialists only deal - at most - in PR, and their response will be entirely dependent on what they calculate they can get away with.
Well, it turns out all unwavering support for a nation because of the etnicity of the people who live there (i.e. “The Jewish Nation”) is still racism and entirelly anchored in the very same racist way of thinking as was historical in the nations providing said support (it’s quite interesting how the nations which are the biggest supporters of Israel pretty much all have histories of extreme racism and genocide against other etnicities).
That whole “support for The Jewish Nation” thing could be passed as “positive” discrimination (as if the positive for some doesn’t have a complementary negative “denial of equal treatment for those not of the right etnicities”) up until the point the self-apointed representatives of the etnicity those nations discriminate in favour of, went full-on Nazi and started massacring people on etnic lines all accompanied with the same kind of wording and propaganda that Goebbels used.
That the nations doing that “positive discrimination” didn’t stop it when their support suddenly became the means for very overt, very cold anti-Palestinian and even anti-Muslim racist extreme violence, and in fact even doubled-down on Nazi-style propaganda against their own populations to defend it, for me shows how deep down at least the elites those nations never stopped being profoundly racist.
Looking at it from that point of view, the explanation for, for example, Germany’s behaviour is actually quite simple: their elites never stopped being racist and even seeing mass murder along etnic lines as acceptable, they just changed the etnic groups they favour and disfavour and became better at hidding their prejudices, at least when it came to etnicities which was not politically correct to discriminate against - if their relation towards other human beings still follows the very same mental framework as almost a century ago (only with different ubermenschen and untermenschen) their continued support of Israel, even when they go on a full-on Nazi-style genocide, is entirelly natural.
Couldn’t agree more. The mask has come off to reveal the quite unashamedly colonial white supremacy of the West.
It’s not a German problem or a Jewish problem. It never was. It’s a human problem. A century from now this whole thing will be used as an aesop about that. A state founded to protect against genocide committing one before all the survivors have even passed.
Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Transfer Committee and the JNF led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate.
Plan Dalet
Details of Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)