• rob64@startrek.website
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    1 year ago

    I was raised Catholic, but I’ve been an atheist for—oh fuck I’m old—more than half my life. But… Monastic life seems pretty dope. Why can’t there be a secular order that’s just devoted to knowledge/contemplation for its own sake (or the betterment of humanity). I know it kind of sounds like I’m describing a university, but I mean with the personal discipline, strong communal bond, and simple lifestyle.

    • Apolinario Mabussy@lemmy.calvss.com
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      You and me both. Also means giving up certain comforts, but that’s kind of the point. Maybe that’s why the secular monastery doesn’t exist- it’d be a huge sacrifice for those who would participate in it and still require some cooperation/consent/aid from others in the community/society (as much as self-sufficiency would be ideal). I’m thinking about how much people (and governments) already don’t want to fund universities which give tangible benefits, and how much worse it’ll be for secular monasteries.

      But hey, I also want this, and it’d be interesting to see what insights would come from a place of thinking unconstrained by the trappings of modern society.

      (Or it could basically just be libraries and being a librarian but more extreme lol)

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      1 year ago

      Religion of science. Where sheeps just believe whatever these so called “experts” spout without doing your own research.

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        When people talk about “doing your own research,” I think they underestimate how difficult and slow actual research is. For physical and biological sciences it also requires heavy investment in equipment, but you can save money by sharing resources and collaborating with others doing similar research. For social/politics/history/economic research, I would imagine you need access to primary sources, maybe some modeling software, and years of learning to understand the context of anything you’re researching. I think people who say “do your own research” don’t understand the significance of understanding context, which leads to some…interesting ideas.