Americans; If Trump wins in November, what are your plans?
Resist as much as possible without getting killed. BTW, I’m an Old-White-Guy Boomer. Not all people in my generation are lining up to kiss Trump’s ass…
It’s important for the left to recognise that boomers as a whole also represent a group of people who face significant systemic challenges, and that the real enemy is capitalism and the power structures that maintain it as the status quo.
We need a class war; not a culture war.
“Significant systemic challenges” such as…?
They’ve had it better than us at every stage of life and have trashed everything for those coming after them. If they are facing challenges now, they’re lucky.
As they do now, capitalists are to blame for what previous generations have had, not the generation themselves. While the boomer generation may have profited by the direct disenfranchisement of others, the same is inherently true of almost anyone who participates in capitalism.
Hating boomers for being born when they were is prejudice plain and simple, while we may face our own modern issues they had their own when they were younger. More recently there’s lovely stuff like elder abuse that’s rampant in aged care.
The leftist cooks did a great video on the topic that I’d recommend watching rather than listening to me, I’m no expert on the topic, I just think social cohesion is important and we need to keep in mind who really causes our problems.
Have to upvote the Leftist Cools and their 2 hour videos.
I don’t dislike boomers because of when they were born. I dislike boomers because the right wing ones are assholes and idiots. They blame the younger generations for the problems they caused and they’re actively trying to burn down our country because they believe the bullshit they’re fed by fox “news” and wannabe dictator tRump.
That’s exactly my point.
Hate shit people, don’t hate people who belong to a demographic. There are lots of awesome boomers.
Thank you for your comments. I was getting caught up in the hate rhetoric for “boomers” in general, forgetting who perpetuated these issues we face today.
Thinking back, I know I said some shitty things to older friends and family, who were just trying to get along in life like everyone else.
They have made changes to the system they profited from so that others cannot do the same. It has nothing to do with ageism
Shouldn’t the generation that “got theirs” pay the piper though?
Not all boomers are wealthy
And neither are some of the younger ones who they might have counted on in the past… I just hope it’s enough.
My feeling is that a Trump reelection will be the null result of the American experiment. I expect we’ll shift gears from decline to conflagration that will consume the Constitution, The three Branches, and the Union itself. Best case, we’ll emerge humbled from the ashes much like Germany in the late 20th Century.
Germany was build by US. Who is gonna build US?
God I don’t know. It’d be a god damn miscarriage of justice. I don’t think I could handle 4 more years of it.
Careful, miscarriages are considered abortions and that’s against the law.
Har har
4 more years - seems like the start of the Trump forever dynasty if you let him back in.
(From the perspective of a Canadian)
And we’re in for our own ride with “Polly Pockets” as my wife calls him (pierre poilievre). Since it increasingly looks like our fellow citizens are going to fuck up… <sigh>
Hunker down, pre budget anticipating more layoffs. I’m “lucky” in that I’m cis, white, male, married, too old for draft. So will also spend my time looking after folks in my community that don’t have those keywords. I am already a friend to all, but will think double about their needs/concerns. (Obviously respecting their privacy). Try to volunteer more than normal.
Same. If it comes to it, I’ll be a stop on another Underground Railroad. I hope it doesn’t come to it.
Already working on getting permanent residency in another country that doesn’t share a border with the U.S. Not specifically because of loser Trump but we will be more likely to use it if that fucker finds his way back to office.
Honestly, I would be shocked if he ever wins another election or somehow manages to come out on top. He lost by a lot of votes last time. Since then, we watched him on TV while he incited an insurrection, his subsequent behavior suggests he may want to start a civil war, a jury determined he is a rapist, and enough other shit to write a book series.
His post-presidency career is selling NFT’s, shoes, begging for handouts from his idiot followers, criminal defendant, and whatever other scam he thinks of when he wakes up. He’s a petty hustler who inherited money. He’s a loser.
More importantly, he is a criminal. He can’t help himself. He is going to cheat in the election because he cheats at everything. He cheats on his wife, cheats on his taxes, cheats in golf, cheated in an election. He is going to cheat and he will be caught red handed. It’s not unreasonable to wonder if he might get himself arrested for what he does in this election.
He’s already facing four criminal trials. He’s not beating 91 felony charges, especially when most of them are from the feds. They don’t lose cases and they don’t bring high profile cases unless they have the defendant dead to rights.
He is toast and he knows it, which is why he’s so desperate to delay the trials and win the presidency. He is arguably a domestic terrorist. He is arguably a national security threat. The three letter agencies are probably on him like flies on shit. If they’re not, they fucking should be. I don’t believe he will ever be permitted to set foot in the White House again, and that’s assuming he wins in the first place, which he won’t, or cheats his way to victory, which also won’t happen. He’s done.
Unfortunately I think Trump will get back in
538 suggests that he’s beating Biden in opinion polls, plus he’s far ahead of any other candidate in the Republican primaries.
538 is bullshit. They are wrong as often as they are right. People don’t prefer Trump to Biden or anybody else for that matter. There’s just not a lot of enthusiasm for Biden.
Biden is old and boring. Otherwise, he and his administration have been competent. He has a lot of shit on his plate between the division in our country, war with Russia, and now Israel getting into shit at the worst time possible. Iran is also simmering over there and we have the usual shit from North Korea. Throw in relations with China and this administration has as many challenges as any in recent memory.
The upside is we have a great Secretary of State and the rest of the cabinet has been pretty solid overall. And don’t forget, the administration and the Fed managed to stave off a recession in the midst of all of this, which is a pretty difficult balancing act when dealing with all these external problems requires significant government spending. The Biden administration is doing a much better job than people realize.
In contrast, Trump fucks up everything he touches. Half these problems have his fingerprints all over them to begin with. A reasonable person knows he is not a good executive, even-tempered or capable of engaging with real leaders. This is a guy who turned a $5M judgement against him into $83M because he can’t control himself. He is stupid and reckless. Do you trust him to sit across from a guy like Xi Jinping? I sure as hell don’t. One of leads 1.6 billion people with an iron fist and the other is a clown masquerading as a mafioso.
For Trump to win, he would have to get a lot more votes than he did during the last election in which he was more or less trounced. I just don’t see that happening. Who didn’t vote for him last time and is looking at him now and thinking he’s the guy? He is the worst presidential candidate in the history of our country by a long shot.
The Republicans have been handed a series of crushing defeats in bi-elections post-Trump. I’m hopeful that it will carry into the federal election, especially if Alabama’s “embryos are people” law survives the supreme court.
I happen to also have an EU citizenship. Move to the EU.
Will you marry me?
I like you well enough from what I have seen. I look into it.
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I’m a trans woman and I honestly think that I very well may end up having to hide myself in my parents attic or something.
would strongly recommend my transfolk friends move out of FL and TX, and really any red state. I know it’s hard, but these places… they’re not run by people in their right minds.
Might as well go live in an actual developed country while you are at it.
i want to add for any trans folks thinking about moving to canada: make sure you check provincial laws. we have a federal bill enshrining trans rights*, but some of our provinces are interested in just ignoring it using the notwithstanding clause. obviously do your own research but i would say british columbia is probably your best bet (coastal bc especially, the interior is a little… traditionalist)
i found a resource that breaks it down better than i ever could
Is there one for the U.S. ?
It is spreading, not many states will be safe very soon. Not to mention most people don’t have the ability to move. It’s a nice thought, tho
Die I guess.
Too easy. I’m thinking more subversive.
Same thing I did last time. Hunker down in a blue city in a blue state, worry about my friends and relatives in red states, and do what I can to take care of myself and others.
No matter if that criminal wins or not, EU needs to fend for themselves. The US is a lot more unreliable then Poetin (we know he’s a bastard).
Currently torn between stockpiling guns so I can get flashbanged and black vanned in the middle of the night by the Gestapo and illegally emigrating to Canada.
On the one hand, that first one will be annoying, on the other, I hate snow.
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But for real idk. My wife is an obgyn and I’m Hispanic soooo I feel like we might be in danger.
Move back to Australia. Thank god I kept my citizenship.
Will you marry me? I’m a good cook and pretty funny, but also autistic so I need my alone time.
Hold on, let me check with my wife :)
Ok, I’ll be on stand by 👌
Im a broke woman with chronic health problems in a red state who may be homeless soon and who sure as hell can’t afford to leave and go somewhere better. I guess I’ll just keep trudging along and hope that somehow we’re all being hysterical and things won’t actually get that bad but if they do and if I lose what little social assistance I have I guess I’ll just tap out and call it a life, ya know?
Easy, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Duh. I don’t understand why you haven’t done it already. I kid. But seriously. I hope you get the help you need.
I’m really surprised the right isn’t more concerned people in your condition will look at their choices, their right to firearms, and decide if they’re going down, they’re taking legislators with them. That’s a serious concern when people are desperate.
You’ll buy food before ammo, and they know it.
