• nukul4r@feddit.de
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    7 months ago

    Hopefully this will hurt them up to a point where they go out of business. Just look at their review of the 5800X3D, it’s so unreal.

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      7 months ago

      The 5800X3D has the same core architecture as the 5800X but it runs at 11% lower base and 4% lower boost clocks. The lower clocks are in exchange for an extra 64MB of cache (96MB up from 32MB) and around 40% more money. For most real-world tasks performance is comparable to the 5800X. Cache sensitive scenarios such as low res. canned game benchmarks with a 3090-Ti ($2,000 USD) benefit at the cost of everything else. Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins, conveniently ignore frame drops and gloss over the losses. Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual. Instead of focusing on real-world performance, AMD’s marketers aim to dupe consumers with bankrolled headlines. The same tactics were used with the Radeon 5000 series GPUs. Zen 4 needs to bring substantial IPC improvements for all workloads, rather than overpriced “3D” marketing gimmicks. New PC builders have little reason to look further than the $260 12600K which, at a fraction of the price, offers better all round performance in gaming, desktop and workstation applications. Users with an existing AM4 build should wait just a few more months for better performance at lower prices with Raptor Lake or even Zen 4. The marketers selling expensive “3D” upgrades today will quickly move onto Zen 4 (3D) leaving unfortunate buyers stuck on an overpriced, 6 year old, dead-end, platform. [Mar '22 CPUPro]

      Jesus

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        7 months ago

        What’s scary is that I think the owner of userbenchmark actually believes that statement. Which might explain how he’s so out of touch that he thinks his own crap doesn’t stink and deserves to be locked behind a subscription. I’m just sad that there might be a not insignificant number of people that pay for it.

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        7 months ago

        The real Neanderthal social media account is the one writing that review.

        Instruction and data caches have a real, tangible benefit. Although there is a point of diminishing returns, more L3 cache is absolutely worth a 10% clock speed trade-off for consumer systems. Fetching memory from the bus is an order of magnitude slower than fetching from cache, and the processor has to perform other work or stall while it’s waiting for that.

        But, knowing the bias of the reviewer, they’re probably running DDR4 at 5200 MT/s (2000 over JEDEC specs) on their Intel systems to make up for the lack of cache while thinking, “just buy a more expensive processor and RAM, you brain-dead cretins.”

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          7 months ago

          I mean it’s kinda amazing that there’s someone looking at a 14th gen Intel CPU sucking back 200+ watts, while it gets spanked by a 7800X3D running at 65 watts, and thinking “AMD is hurting consumers”. That’s some next level shit.

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            7 months ago

            Well said. The only thing hurting consumers is the reviewers omitting information or spreading misinformation.

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      7 months ago

      The only reason I can think for a site to do this is that they were about to go under already. This will absolutely tank them as there are free alternatives.

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      7 months ago

      Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual.

      Wat

      Fellow AMD Neanderthal Army soldiers: any idea when I get my cool uniform and …paycheck?

      Zen 4 needs to bring substantial IPC improvements for all workloads, rather than overpriced “3D” marketing gimmicks.

      … the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D performs reasonably consistently under varying real world conditions.

      Uhh… Aren’t… Aren’t these two statements kinda contradictory?

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        7 months ago

        Not if you remember that the writers are being paid by Intel. Then, it all comes together.

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        Uhh… Aren’t… Aren’t these two statements kinda contradictory?

        No no, you see; it performs reasonably consistency under varying real world conditions but for a CPU to truly shine it needs to handle all workloads, including unrealistic synthetic ones.

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        7 months ago

        You’re expecting rationale from someone who just made crazy statements because their feeling are hurt.