• ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world
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    https://youtu.be/eAz9_iApfRI?t=1m50s

    I’m just going to leave a time-stamped link to the unedited video because there are a couple apologists in here that are absolutely ridiculous.

    The officers identify themselves exactly once at 2:07, a car alarm starts going off at 2:18 and noticeably startles the officer wearing the cam, at 2:23 one of the officers says “someone’s coming”, and at 2:26 the syllable “Dro-” is interrupted by both officers completely unloading their magazines into the door/window.

    It actually doesn’t even look like the door was open and maybe the victim was trying to peek out the window?

    So how exactly should she have handled this situation to have avoided someone trying to randomly murder her in her own home?

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      completely unloading their magazines into the door/window.

      You’re not exaggerating here. It takes about 8 seconds for the one officer to reload the weapon once the mag’s been emptied by spasmodic panic-shooting, and while we can deduct time used to talk on the radio, it didn’t stop what looked like 40-50 rounds being pumped into the general vicinity of a person.

      I have cops in the family, and I get a good idea of the day-to-day grind their soul endures in my country’s best-trained and worst-paid police force, and I’ll be among hte first to review something critically. There’s nothing mitigating about this; it’s objectively horrific.

      Edit: ho-oleee shit, she survived.

      Pouncy, a friend of the woman who lived in the apartment, sustained a total of five gunshot wounds to the leg and torso, according to her attorney, Ben Crump, who reacted to the release of the video on Monday, calling it “evidence of the unnecessary and excessive force.”

      None of Pouncy’s vital organs were struck by bullets, but the long-term effects of her injuries are yet to be determined, according to Crump. He told ABC News that Pouncy is traumatized by the incident.

      I hope she can live and sue the cops so hard it’ll change their training, and these two will split between telling their story of idiocy and parking enforcement for the rest of their careers.

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        They shoot people for no reason and you hope they get parking duty?

        How about they go to prison for their crime of attempted murder.

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          Hes just being real as to what’s going to happen. Of course we all want them in prison drinking prison goop through a straw.

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      Okay, fair enough. To counter, officers typically have to make split second decisions that can mean life and death. They don’t want to die, just like you and me. They go to the home, it’s clear someone broke in. They announce themselves, 15 minutes later, someone comes walking to the door holding a gun. Now, how SHOULD have the cops handled the situation? Again, it’s SO easy to say “well, they should have done this…or that…” when it’s not you constantly worried about whether or not you’re going to die every time you put on your work uniform.

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        Now, how SHOULD have the cops handled the situation? Again, it’s SO easy to say “well, they should have done this…or that…”

        Here’s the thing…I don’t have to provide the answer to this question. I am not a “trained professional” that is paid specifically to handle these kind of situations.

        What I can say without a doubt is there is zero excuse for this woman being shot. If officers are not able to go through their workday without shooting an innocent person then either they shouldn’t be a cop or they shouldn’t carry a weapon. Period.

        A police officer’s discomfort or cowardice does not supersede an innocent citizen’s rights.

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        It’s an order of magnitude more dangerous to get in your vehicle and drive somewhere than it is to be a cop. Is this how you’d defend someone who committed vehicular manslaughter due to negligence?

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        I bartend. Bad neighborhood, no security. When I work, it’s just me behind the bar. Same with my coworkers. There have been plenty of times over the years when shitheads have come into the bar looking to start problems, plus the usual nonsense that happens with a room fun of drunk people. I’ve never shot anybody over it. Neither have any of my coworkers.

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        officers typically have to make split second decisions that can mean life and death

        If you feel you need to UNLOAD your weapon at the slightest hint of anything amiss Then don’t become a fucking cop. That’s a choice anyone can make.

        Now fuck off, you apologist piece of shit.

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          Why don’t you join your local police department, show everyone how it’s supposed to be done?

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        Pizza delivery drivers die on the job twice as often as police. Should they be able to shoot anyone they want without real repercussions?

        …Actually, food service workers specifically should get one free kill a year

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          “Shoot anyone they want” is a exaggeration. There’s over 1 million police officers in this country, over 30,000 police departments… how many would you say are just “going out and shooting anyone they want?”

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        Look for another job if you can’t handle the stress of your current one? Don’t just unload your lethal weapon at the slightest hint of potential threat?

        No other western democracy has such well armed and yet poorly trained police as those found in the USA.

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          Name me another “democracy” with over 300 million people, from 1000’s of different cultures and backgrounds…who’s doing it right? The point is, you all seem to make it sound like it’s so easy… there’s not another country on the planet in a similar situation as the US.

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              That’s fair right? Compare a lot of small, independent countries to the United States…

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            Yeah, because the US attacks and destroys anyone who tries.

            What happened to Salvador Allende? What happened to Sukarno? What happened to Patrice Lumumba?

            There’d be more successful mutliethnic democracies in the world if America didn’t hunt them down and destroy them.

            Name me a country that has destroyed more democracies than the US.

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              So, what are you proposing? The United States just stop getting involved in everyone’s business? Isn’t that what Trump was about? Yet, here we are… damn if you do, damn if you don’t.