• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Damn sounds like the most equitable solution would be to ban car imports and domestic production. Starting a ~20year clock where the suburbs die on the vine without the huge fuel and unsustainable infrastructure subsidies that currently make them viable.

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    Almost like we should focus on making the US better / competitive instead of trying to succeed by blocking others.

    Don’t we get a ton of components and raw materials required for EVs from China already?

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      5 months ago

      America literally manufactures cars in China but wants to ban chinese cars. America ruthlessly attacks anything that threatens its world domination one bit. Death to America.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Almost like we should focus on making the US better / competitive instead of trying to succeed by blocking others.

      That’s against the interests of the u.s capitalists.

      Don’t we get a ton of components and raw materials required for EVs from China already?

      Yes but they get shoved into dogshit u.s cars who’s prices are raised many times more than the cost it was to make the damn things to scalp the average American of more of their dwindling wealth

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      That’s why German automakers are pissed off with the EU Commission lol

      They want to compete, but von der Leyen doesn’t let them.

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      Almost like we should focus on making the US better / competitive instead of trying to succeed by blocking others.

      some japanese & korean automakers have teamed together to do that and i suspect that they’ll be ahead of the curve of whatever the markets look like 10 years from now; meanwhile the the us and western europe is going to rely on tariffs that will only leave their automakers less prepared for what’s coming.

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    The corporate christofascists and their GOP stooges are doing everything they can to stop electric vehicle production and adoption in the US. They’re doing the same thing with renewable energy. It’s all about keeping the money flowing to the rich for at long as possible no matter what the long term costs to the country, the planet, or the non-wealthy. Most ofter countries not run by corporate fascists are adopting EVs and renewable as fast as they can. The US is going to become a dirty, underdeveloped country run by theocratic dictators and there is very little that can be done to stop it and very little time to do it.

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      Okay not that I’m suggesting the GOP is any good, but Biden set a 100% import tax on Chinese EVs and sent Yellen to complain about the overproduction of Chinese renewables.

      They both protect American megacorp interests because they are both lobbied by the same companies.

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        Biden is NOT a liberal or progressive. He’s just less of a fascist than the GOP. He lives in a world where more than 100 million people swallow anything the GOP forces into their mouths.

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          This, 100%.

          There’s a false narrative that everything and everyone is either left or right, liberal or conservative, blue or red. But it’s simply not the case.

          There are a handful of leftists in the Democrat party, but the vast majority are right wing conservatives. The Overton window has shifted hard to the right and most of the Democrats shifted along with it.

          A Democrat politician today would have been considered a right wing republican extremist 40 years ago.

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      I thought the main problem was unfair competition from subsidized car makers. The same problem as de European car market.

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        Yeah, it’s so unfair that China is subsidizing the green transition!

        Also, are we just forgetting about the unfair competition from subsidized farmers in the US destroying Mexican farms and forcing them to travel north to do agricultural labor in the US?

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          The subsidies aren’t for the green transition, the subsidies are there to get more influence on the markets, and not just the car market. Outprice the competition…

          And no I didn’t forget about “what about…”

          Sadly both have a same goal. Both influence competition in a bad way.

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            Uh huh, then why aren’t they subsidizing gas cars to the same extent?

            Subsidizing electric cars is good and y’all need to stop making excuses.

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                  No, because those aren’t a threat to the (western) car marked. The electric ones are.

                  And the fact that China is currently controlling the battery resources. Also seems to be an influence.

                  But please buy one if you want one.

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        That’s just their cover story for their base. It’s actually about protecting the US auto and oil and gas industries and keeping profits flowing to the right people.

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      They’ll just come up with some china exclusive work around law that’s 700 pages and bundled with a bunch of draconian bullshit laws.