Imagine if we had elected this beautiful bastard back in 2016.
Too bad he was vocally pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian liberation up until now. Ready to blindly believe the lies about the 40 babies, and somehow that Israel is allowed continued support every year with our money. Dude has lost all my support ever since bowing to Dems both times and not fighting. He allowed Dems to get what they wanted and all of us are assholes for not fucking around about withholding votes. Bernie got people excited about real change, and then allowed the very establishment we need removed to bring it to a hard stop (like always). Fuck him and his masters that enabled Israel’s decades and decades of planned genocide started with the colonization of Palestine by Zionists! He is just doing what all the Dems do, good quotes/speeches and nothing changed.
What more do you want him to do? Politics moves on the margins, and Sanders is now and for as long as I can remember been one of the most Israel critical politicians both in terms of rhetoric and voting history. He is not a king; he is 1% of 1 chamber of the legislative branch of a country that has a lot of issues to deal with.
Imagine if Gore won.
*if Gore’s win wasn’t stolen by the supreme court
I seethed for months over this. Months.
Boomers wonder why the younger generations seem to ‘hate america’.
Well it’s because of bullshit like this. Repugnicunts have hijacked democracy and its roots are in Nixon and we have been forced to grow up under the lie that we are free and represented by our politicians.
Democrats did exactly the same to Bernie in 2016. Leaked emails confirm that the DNC actively conspired against Sanders.
And then Hillary was such a bad candidate that Trump won. Thank the DNC for that one.
Similar deal here in the UK with Corbyn, except he was already leader of the party. Destroyed by his own kind. Most politicians accept that the only way into office is to gain control of an existing party. I’m glad for Americans that Bernie Sanders still seems to have some mainstream credibility. Jeremy Corbyn was attacked so hard from all vested interests on all fronts that he has almost become a tragic meme, despite how exceptional he was/is as a figurehead.
My parents tried to explain to me why Bush won instead of Gore, and my little kid brain was like “but he won though”
That was my first ever presidential election vote, I was so excited to see someone with legit interest in saving the environment, full of hope for a new future. I remember how giddy it felt to step into the booth.
I lived in florida then, the entire state was thrown out by a legit conspiracy.
And it’s jaded my vision of politics ever since.
Good with Judaism but fuck the Israeli state. Don’t let people try to confuse the two.
The Holocaust is real, stop trying to cosplay it in Gaza.
He must be an anti-semite
If you rearrange the letters in “sanders” it actually becomes hamas.
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Sanders
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Sanhers
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Sanhars
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Samhars
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amhas
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hamas
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Hamas
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Start with the original name
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Remove the bottom of the letter “d”, now it looks like a mirrored “h”, so let’s mirror it back tp a normal “h”
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The letter “e” is just an upside down “a” with rounded corners and a tail, so rotate it into an “a”
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The letter “n” looks and sound almost like the letter “m”, it is almost too easy, but let’s just swap it.
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Remove the extra letters.
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Rearange the letters to spell “hamas”
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Capitalize the name properly.
Done!
/s
Bulletproof.
No need for /s - this is no less illogical than most of their other arguments.
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Wow 20 downvotes lol , are you saying he did not say this or are you just mad I pointed it out?
This Jewish man must be an antisemite! It’s the only explanation…
There is a hamas tunnel under him /s
He clearly hates Jews. /s
To be fair hating the Israeli goverment is a very jewish thing statisticaly
As a non-american it gives me an innocent and sincere joy to see Bernie Sanders being celebrated. Keep that integrity alive you crazy BAMFs.
To me, Bernie proved that there can be no positive change in the US via voting. When Bernie was looking strong, the democrats and the news media did everything they could to stop him and they succeeded. They were willing to do it even though the polling numbers showed that Hillary was the only legitimate primary candidate who couldn’t beat Trump. They wanted Bernie out no matter what because he represented the positive change that would hurt the ruling class just a little.
Who replaces Netanyahu? The crimes of Israel are not all rooted in one man.
The crimes of Donald Trump were not rooted in one man either but getting rid of one major malignant tumor does help things along.
did it though, nothing has really changed sense his presidency has ended and arguably it has all gotten worse, all be it at a SLIGHTLY less breakneck pace. Not only that but his popularity never weigned and he is poiesed to come back, and I will be honest as much as I do not want trump to come back I would be a fool to say I did not expect him to win the election in 2024.
So no, temporarily removing him did basicly nothing, except allow feckless liberals to go to brunch and ignore everything that is going on in the world
Cancer is prone to relapse.
Im saying he isnt the cancer, heck he isn’t all that different from biden except he says the stuff he is not suposed to say, The cancer is capitalism, the fact we let society get this bad,
Do you have a better socioeconomic ideology to propose?
Anarchy can’t work on a large scale.
Communism was tried and tested, and it resulted in a dictatorship (North Korea), a “democratic” country ruled by a man whose opposition mysteriously keeps falling out of windows (Russia), or a capitalist society with eroded human rights that still calls itself communist (China).
The best option, in my opinion, is to keep what works but tax the fuck out of the rich and corporations and use their money to provide services to the less fortunate. But, thanks to decades of propaganda, half the country refuses to support that idea because socialism = communism = bad.
North Korea is not a dictatorship, all information coming out of it is either one video about a hair cut (very good documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8) or sources all trace back to the CIA… Russia is very much a capitalist oligarchy that got erodied from the golory days of the USSR by the CIA, and China is communist and has better human rights than the United states, Have you even read their constitution or foundational documents.
Second I hate to say this but Communism IS socialism, or atleast from all the origional texts, more precicely Socialism is now used as the lower form of communism, before we get rid of states and money. so yes I do have a better socieo economic ideology, its Communism, and we put the rich to the wall,
Also lets look here at Cuba 0 homeless, one of the higest life expectencies, the higest literacy rate, one of the most flurishing democratic participations in the world, and the best protection of minority rights anywhere in the world, all done while under a genocidal blocade of the US. and they still find time to send doctors all around the globe. I would call this a sucsess. and what ever the US is doing a monumental falure.
Facts! If Netanyahu is removed, it will just be like the US where the next guy is still evil but just lesser.
Not even lesser, there’s always a chance that a more extreme person/system replaces them.
If only the DNC could get their shit together, if he was the nomination last election, or the one before, or the one before, the world would be in such a better place.
We could have had Al Gore instead of Bush if the Supreme Court didn’t toss Bush the crown because… reasons
Also, many progressives stayed home or voted for the Green Party. Not that it is more the fault of progressives than SCOTUS, but blame aside, it’s a cautionary tale.
That argument goes both ways. “Nader would have won if progressives hadn’t handed the election to the Republicans by throwing their votes away on Gore.” Same is true for 2016 with Bernie and Clinton.
It really doesn’t go both ways. The winning presidential candidate needs to get the most votes, and most US voters are not progressive. They’re moderate, or indifferent.
I don’t know how you could say that about HRC and Sanders. That’s not even a hypothetical: they literally had a head to head match where, to my huge disappointment, HRC won. Protesting HRC helped elect Trump, and obviously that hasn’t been good for progressive interests or democracy.
Your argument makes no sense.
You acknowledge progressives won’t vote for moderates. But what makes you think moderates won’t vote for progressives if they don’t have a choice?
Do you really believe the people who voted for Clinton wouldn’t have voted for Sanders in the general? If so, then shouldn’t the blame be on them too? If not, then can you admit you’re wrong?
im confused on this, didnt they do like three recounts??
Recounts only matter if you’re counting all the ballots instead of just the ballots you want you count because your brother happens to be one of the candidates. They invalidated a bunch of ballots that were hole-punched because the paper that was punched out didn’t completely tear away (see: “hanging chad”).
i dont understand? did bush have a governor brother in florida?
Yes Jeb Bush is his brother and was governor at the time.
Then why does he keep give nickels to political parties supporting it?
Glad he’s coming around
Coming around? When was he on the wrong side of this issue?
His October 10 statement includes:
Right now, the international community must focus on reducing humanitarian suffering and protecting innocent people on both sides of this conflict. The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it. Israel’s blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians. The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access. Let us not forget that half of the two million people in Gaza are children. Children and innocent people do not deserve to be punished for the acts of Hamas.
October 10. 3 days after the initial attack.
Back in January he tried conditioning aid to Israel and requiring the state department to issue human rights report on their conducts.
The Palestinian conflict did not start on Oct 7th it’s been happening for decades now. Specifically my gripes are with “The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access.” I do not agree that any support should have been given period, Israel has been a genocidal Zionist entity for a long time now and Sanders is well aware of this I’m certain. I’m also frustrated by his request for restraint as if anything other than the dismantling of the Israeli state could possibly suffice.
He is also a proponent of the two state solution which is inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state.
I’m glad he is wants the genocide to stop but conditional fucking Israeli aid is not the way to do that. They should not be aided. Was it wise to aid apartheid South africa through continued trade relations? Was it right to vilify Mandela as a terrorist? Of course not, we can look back on these actions and see how wrong they were because we know what came to be. So why are we doing it again?
Yes obviously apartheid South Africa and the current palestinian genocide are not a flawless comparison but they are similar enough.
Essentially my point is that he has been much too sympathetic towards Israel for a while. Sure he’s probably one of the most radical politicians we have on this issue but I find that to be incredibly disheartening.
The problem with Israel is that there is no legal way to remove them from the area. There is no ethical way to condone their treatment of Palestinians either, and the US needs to remain on good terms with Israel to keep the American hegemony strong. Sanders cannot change these things. The only hope for any shred of peace in the Holy Land is to revert back to some semblance of a two-state solution similar to the original 1948 map. England and the UN royally fucked the Palestinians in the 40s and now the chickens have finally, in 2024, come home to roost.
Sanders cannot change the value Israel has to the US but at the very least he could advocate for a ceasefire which he doesn’t think is possible with a “terrorist organization that is dedicated to perpetual war” [source]
If I rolled my eyes any harder they’d rotate completely
