Microsoft's Edge browser, Bing search, and ad business also avoid regulations.
    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Now that you’ve let your guard down, Apple is free to do whatever they want. It’s exactly exactly what Apple wanted.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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          8 months ago

          maybe…

          but hat could take many years to spin up another massive lawsuit like this, and, by then, Apple could possibly have profited kajillions, and/or have modified their communications protocols just sufficiently to skirt regulations. or one of a dozen other legal maneuvers around this or a number of other possible future regulations…

            • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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              8 months ago

              I try not to predict the future. it took them a long time to get here. I they’e going to loop back around, I can’t see it happening again soon.

                • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  It’s not about the explosive growth (or not) of iMessage. It’s a matter of fact about the legal foothold that Apple now holds. That won’t be dislodged anytime soon. Whether or not Apple can get any market growth moving forward, now the EU will have to re-file any efforts to this ruling to them in the future should they try. That is a big deal. And nothing anyone in trying in the EU will move forward anything near the weight this attempt did. 

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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          8 months ago

          no, merely considered irrelevant— for legal purposes. why? read the headline.

  • NaN@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    8 months ago

    It’s a win for Apple, but isn’t it also sort of a loss because they’re not popular enough to count?

    • petrescatraian@libranet.de
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      8 months ago

      @Bitrot Kinda like that. Most friends of mine don’t even own an iPhone. Those who do, generally use Facebook Messenger to speak to each other. If anyone is not on Facebook, they are surely on WhatsApp, or they can be reached via the classical phone calls and SMS messages (but I’ve yet to meet someone who I need to use these with, as they are clearly inconvenient as hell). If there’s a group chat, it is generally on WhatsApp.

      I heard Telegram is popular as well in the post-soviet space. It is my fallback as well, and I’m not in one. Plenty of Romanian channels (news or organizations), and I speak with a couple of friends from there. I realize this is just “a different WhatsApp” from the POV of a centralized silo, but the features are great and I’d clearly trust Telegram more than Meta.
      @brisk

    • BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      The government labeling something that Apple fans love as “not needing regulation” is purely a win for Apple. Imagine if 99% of text messages sent were via iMessage, and the EU kept the same ruling. That means that Apple has a functioning monopoly that is not considered a monopoly because there’s technically an alternative.

        • BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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          8 months ago

          Did you just say Apple would try to prevent their users from switching to iMessage? Apple knows iMessage is a massive selling point for iPhones which is the reason Apple is so afraid of opening iMessage up to begin with.

                • Norgur@kbin.social
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                  8 months ago

                  Well, if you don’t know that, it means that either, you are not a US citizen, which we ruled out, ooooor… oooh, I hate to break it to you but… you have lost touch with “the youngsters” as they say. You are old.

            • BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              It is a major point of social pressure. People get legitimately upset when they start a group chat and realize one of the members doesn’t have an iPhone. That absolutely makes it valuable to Apple

                • BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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                  8 months ago

                  I agree it’s a minor irritation by most standards, but when all that’s on the line is making jokes about someone based on their choice of phone there’s no reason not to pressure someone else. As to sources, I see it happen all the time. I used to be the one who upset people, then I bought an iPhone and almost everyone I texted got really excited to see the color of our chat change. I’ve also seen countless memes about green chat bubbles and people ruining group chats because of their Androids. I’m not sure you’re going to get much more reliable sources than anecdotal ones for something like this.

            • petrescatraian@libranet.de
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              8 months ago

              @skullgiver For Apple, the US I think is their main market. Here is still that thing that you need to be rich enough to afford, so this is why iMessage is not such a great thing.

              I think that by staying below the EU radar they get to keep their walls for the US users, where regulations are more lax and don’t pose any risk for their business model.

              @BmeBenji