Unmarried couples in a live-in relationship must register it with the government within 30 days of moving in together. The registrar reviews the application and may ask for additional information during an investigation. If approved, the relationship is recorded in a register and a certificate issued. Refusal to register may occur if one partner is married, a minor, or if consent was obtained through coercion or fraud. Partners can end the relationship by notifying the registrar and their partner. Failing to register the relationship or providing false information can result in fines, up to 3 months of imprisonment, or both.
Am I getting old or does the world just suck more and more?
Naah u just know more. Social progress has been happening exponentially around the world.
I don’t know. Pretty sure the Jewish temple down the road from me didn’t have to have a police presence every Friday night even a few years ago.
Oh wait I do know that. I remember it not having that when I moved here in 2015. You know what else I remember? I remember when trans people weren’t being actively and openly harassed by government officials.
Dude… Social progress for the LGBTQ community has been exponential. U were talking about the trans community. Look at the number of people feeling safe enough to come out as trans in the past five years. The dramatically rising numbers have led to an equally strong pushback from the conservatives. This however will subside. We have seen this happen in case of the gays as well. Look at how closed stuff was during decriminalization and marriage recognition (which was just 10-20 years around the world).
I for instance would have never ever ever thought of being able to come out as gay back in school. In fact, in India, it was criminalized at the time. Don’t get me wrong- homophobia is still very rampant in India. However, it’s decreasing at unimaginable rates.
There aren’t that many bad people as social media would lead us to believe. People change. Their ideas change. So uk… Have hope I suppose.
J.k. Rowling.
A fucking conservative wonderland.
I’m not Indian, so I might not be getting the full picture here, but this seems like a mostly positive move. Of the three denial reasons, I’m very in support of the latter two and against the first, but it seems less harmful to bar married people from living with non marital romantic partners than it does to allow people to work around the age and consent requirements for marry by simply not legally marrying the child and/or unwilling participant. That’s how, for example, the US has sister wives even though polygamy is illegal. (I’m not against fully aware adults being polyamorous, but that’s not the same as polygamy. )
What’s the issue you see with this law itself? I can definitely see a problem if it’s unevenly enforced, but the law itself seems like a net positive.
This will end every closeted same-sex “we’re just roomates” relationship. The unspoken way gay relationships have been overlooked for generations by having “a roomate” could land you in jail now.
Conservatives love to pass laws to “protect the children” as a pretext to oppress people. It is already illegal to be in a sexual relationship with a child. A registration will not enhance that. Their reasons are fake.
Remember that a conservative is not capable of honesty. Every word spoken by a conservative is either deception or manipulation. Especially when they give excuses for a law designed to tighten the noose on a vulnerable class.
This will end every closeted same-sex “we’re just roomates” relationship. The unspoken way gay relationships have been overlooked for generations by having “a roomate” could land you in jail now.
Would the government recognize that for same-sex co-residents? I’m assuming they’re too conservative to care about anything other than an unmarried man and unmarried woman living together.
Live-in relationships tend to be viewed by Indian society as taboo. If any cohabitants are accused of being homosexual, they could be charged with a crime for not registering a live-in relationship. Under this live-in registration law, same-sex relationships are not permitted.
Conservatives despise gay people (and other vulnerable classes). They weaponize laws to harm these people. They are creating a weapon with this law and they will definitely use it as I am describing. While many may slip under the radar or not become a victim to this law, it is still designed to harm innocent people and teach the populace to discriminate against them.
The government should not be in our bedrooms. What consenting adults do is not the government’s concern
So it seems like people weren’t having to register at all before and now only unmarried couples will, confounded by an existing belief that Muslim men “coerce” Hindu women to marry them, which is conveniently listed as a denial reason.
The government where I live knows where I live, whom I live with, and recently fined me ~20€ for telling them I moved in later than I should have. That’s understandably stifling to some, but not everyone and it’s not a universally unacceptable infringement on human rights, as long as it is equally imposed. Doing it only to unmarried couples or intentionally to break up interfaith relationships is a different thing.
What is so difficult with saying: fuck the government love who you want? Spending whole paragraphs wandering around a point without making it.
Fuck the government, love who you want. My point was that I believe fuck the government, love who you want, but the problem wasn’t initially clear to me because I live in a bureaucratic country. I’m not sure why you’re mad that I needed a follow up question to understand
The article spells out why they are doing this. It is to go after people wanting to have sex outside of marriage.
The article says it’s to prevent child and coercion partnerships. I needed extra context to understand that coercion is probably a political term for interfaith. Again, I don’t know how that could bother someone, but go off, I guess.
Of the three denial reasons
If you truly believe that those are going to be the ONLY criteria, I have oceanfront property in Dehradun to sell you…
Not a word about the religious motives of this action in this article.
Mixed religion marriages are not socially accepted in India. When born a Hindu, one stays Hindu. Converting to Islam and marrying a Muslim is frowned upon (not sure, but I think it is even illegal in a couple of states). So the solution for such couples was to move cities and live together without officially marrying. With this registration, Uttarakand tries to stop that as well.