• M500@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    It’s so weird that these consoles are in the latter stages of their life. Was it just this generation that was weird or am I just getting old?

    It seems that they are not as popular as the Xbox one and ps4 were. Maybe I just checked out of modern gaming.

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      7 months ago

      It still doesn’t feel like there’s been a proper ‘next-gen’ game yet. There were a lot of cross-gen games that seemed to dampen the feeling of the gen starting. Maybe FFVII Rebirth will change that for me; I dunno.

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        It’s the cross gen fade. So, ps5 had lots of great games, but half or more also came out on the ps4 as it dragged out past its expiry, and this was intentional because ps4 has a much larger install base than ps5 had for the forst 2-3 years, so it made sense to do that. The second half of the ps5’s life should yield better looking games that won’t be ported to ps4, and eventually games that will land also on ps6 in a few years. The lines between generations are blurry now.

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        I think that’s because the current gen is just “last gen, but more powerful”. Nothing really got innovated this time around, and the architectures for the current platforms are almost identical to the last ones (which is part of the reason cross-gen has been so popular with developers, as it’s very easy to implement).

        I do feel that catering to cross-gen is creating a situation where a lot of games just aren’t taking advantage of the capabilities of the current gen properly, in order to maintain parity with the “weaker” versions of the same titles.

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          I feel like that has been the case but lately there have been more proper next-gen exclusives that even I, who drags my feet on next gen consoles, am putting aside some cash for PS5. Up until now I didn’t feel the need, but between Spiderman and FF7, I think it’s time.

          I feel like I reached that point much earlier in the last console generations than I did in this one. Maybe that has to do with the speed of development being so much slower nowadays.

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        I dunno, after playing the opening sequence of Spider-Man 2 I thought “oh there’s no way they could do this on a PS4”. The graphics are just insane. Gameplay? Sure, nothing spectacularly out of range of the previous gen. But that came out late last year so it definitely feels like we’re just starting to get there.

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        Just my thought.

        A new version or #6 will not change this. Cross-gen for the sake of making money takes away exclusivity.

        Nintendo took his chance by betting on mobile.

        A lot of remakes and no risk for new ideas. The market is feed up and also mobile smartphone casual gaming takes its toll.

        They would better save the money for a new hardware and try to bring some fresh ideas.

        Just my 5c

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          Inflation is really hitting everywhere. First it was a penny for your thoughts, then it was putting in your 2 cents, now it’s 5c for a comment.

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        I agree. Maybe it’s because all the games can play with lower graphical settings on older PCs. My desktop was mid-tier in Xbox one days, and has about the same performance as a steam deck. I don’t think there are any games I can’t play.

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      7 months ago

      I know what you mean and I think it’s because it had a rocky start. This generation of consoles was plagued by availability issues due to the chip shortage which made the transition period from the ps4 to ps5 a drawn out affair.

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        7 months ago

        That’s kinda what I’m thinking too.

        It’s going to be weird seeing them introduce next gen stuff at some point. Already my steam deck is like a high end Xbox one and I’m happy with graphics and performance. I can’t imagine seeing any noticeable changes in graphics in the ps6.

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          I can’t imagine seeing any noticeable changes in graphics in the ps6.

          I’ve been thinking that since the original Quake came out… there’s always room for improvement!

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    No surprise. It looks like shit, is massive, costs too much, barely has any (generation) exclusives, and didn’t seem to offer an obviously better experience than PS4 apart from load times. You couldn’t buy one for ages, due to supply issues and scalpers (so many scalpers), but when I finally managed to get one in an online shopping basket I thought about it for a few seconds and realised I didn’t want one anyway.

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      7 months ago

      Pc might be more expensive but long term its a better investment. You might need to spend 1200$ or more of your budget allows but it will last longer and you can do more. I guess if you really casually play games a console is good though.

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        What I like about console is the same as why a lot of people like apple: it just works. I have a PC for games that are not on console (eg flight simulator in VR), but for gaming, I just want to be on my couch and turn on the game. No drivers need updating (though game updates are annoying, I can usually delay them, and I can’t mess them up), no “whoops now the sound doesn’t work because I updated something for another game”.

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          PSA: If you have a compatible tv or box you can now use steam link to stream your games from your pc. Works great with the game control for me. Its still in its infancy but it works. Also, playstation does also have updates, some are forced and insanely long, depending on your connection. I‘d say consoles make sense atm for people who have no time or enthusiasm for tinkering. It would help if more people used it though.

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    When looking at the generational shifts between console gens. The PlayStation 5 didn’t fix any problems the industry was having. Especially when you compare the jump in quality between PS2/Xbox and PS3/360, where rendering individual fingers didn’t bring the games performance to a halt. Or the PS3/360 to the PS4/Xbone, where the consoles were given a usable amount of RAM that the devs needed from 256/512 respectively to 8GB on both.

    But other than a slight performance boost and the new GPU buzzword “Ray Tracing” slapped on these systems. They cost more than the older systems did, and don’t offer any new experience which the previous gen systems do.

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      7 months ago

      I gotta say, the SSD makes a huge difference. Makes me wonder how much of my life was wasted staring at loading screens.

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        You can install an SSD in a PS4 you know. Plus its not like Sony Couldn’t add a NVMe slot on a PS4 Pro.

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          7 months ago

          I could, but considering it’s a dying system and PS5 plays all the same games, it didn’t seem like the best option.

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    I’d honestly be pretty upset if Sony decides to ditch PS5 right when the system is starting to hit it’s stride now. I’ve already been playing more PC/Steam Deck compared to my PS5 and Switch.

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      I’ve literally gotten to the point where I’m low on ps4 games and finally decided it’s time for ps5. They better price drop it or I’m gonna skip it altogether if this is the latter half

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        Just buy a PC? The games are hella cheaper.

        You can even use your PS4 controller just like you’re used to.

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          To get a gaming PC comparable to a ps5 would set me back roughly $2-3k, and it’s outdated the moment I get it. I’d still prefer a console that will always run the games I pop in. I have no idea where PC gamers get their computers but a current gen gaming PC where I am costs as much as a car. Building one is not an option, I’m just not the kind of person who can do that.

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            That investment can last you longer than a consoles life span, especially if you can tweak windows and run lower settings or use Linux.

            There’s people still gaming on 1080s

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              So more money for a worse experience? Again that’s why I and so many other will always choose consoles, cause you pop in the game you bought and it works. No need to downgrade it or sitting there troubleshooting for an hour just so you can get it to run. PC gaming is such a huge headache, I always end up returning half the games I buy on steam

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    Latter stage, lol

    We hardly have any true PS5 games; this generation is pathetic

    I’m not buying a PS6 until halfway through its lifetime, and only on sale as well.

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      Let’s assume you still were using a PS4, as I don’t think there’s anything yet to only be on the 5, halfway through the PS6 lifecycle, you could get a PS5 and have 90% of the quality, 100% of the games, and 25% of the price of a PS6.

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    I feel like the PS5 just came out. Damn, the last few years just disappeared. Just kidding, it’s only been out for 2 years. I don’t see something can be at the end of its life when it’s barely even came out.

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      It’s 3 years and 3 months. Not 2 years. And given the mediocre performance it already had when it was released I wouldn’t be surprised if it will have a pretty short life cycle