In other words, he will steal $600M from the public by this move.
Tax evasion is theft.
Tax Advoidance isn’t theft though.
No I don’t get it either esp considering this
Explain tax evasion, in legal terms, because you accused him of a crime.
Yup, it’s tax avoidance, not tax evasion. It’s morally wrong especially because he has the power to influence the system, but it’s not legally wrong.
I want higher taxes on people like this too but are you trying to argue he shouldn’t be able to move?
Or that he should be subject to taxes in a state which he doesn’t live in anymore?
They’re not arguing either of those things. Clearly they’re just stating the facts of the situation.
So, theft is moving states and no longer being subject to the previous state’s taxes?
Is that a fact?
I’ve got a buddy who moved from MD to TX. Is he stealing from MD because he no longer pays taxes there?
If most of someone’s weath was acquired in another state, why should their new state of residence be entitled to it? A weath tax could help fix this
I don’t really see the significance of where he acquired it.
Amazon, maybe more than any company, has/had customers all over the world. That money came from literally everywhere.
When someone says “they shouldn’t be able to do that!” My question is, do what?
Move? Not pay taxes in states they don’t live in?
As I said at the outset, I also think he should pay more taxes but as long as states can decide what taxes they collect, this particular issue isn’t going anywhere.
That or force people not to be able to move or force people to pay taxes in any state they ever lived in.
But I’ve made the mistake of bringing logic to an emotional thread.
Yup, and they successfully argued for years that their non-physical presence in a state meant they should not pay sales taxes in that state, effectively forcing states to subsidize Amazon at the expense of local businesses.
So what you seem to be arguing is that logic dictates that anyone with the economic power to ensure or prevent the passage of laws is necessarily correct, and that the only definition for a term like “theft” is the legal interpretation that you, as a non-lawyer, decide to apply. You’re saying that, despite centuries and millennia of colloquial usages of the term, both predating and concurrently used with the very restricted legal definition, any dictionary or other usage-derived definition is invalid.
That doesn’t sound like logic to me, Mr. Spork.
Boy, that was a ton of words you just put in my mouth.
You knocked the absolute shit outta that straw man.
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Now that I have time, let’s respond to this properly.
Yup, and they successfully argued for years that their non-physical presence in a state meant they should not pay sales taxes in that state, effectively forcing states to subsidize Amazon at the expense of local businesses.
I wasn’t talking about this. You brought it up because it’s an easy point to make, one which I agree with but unfortunately this is where you began construction of the straw man.
I think you’ll find employees of the company all paid taxes in the state they worked/got paid in.
So what you seem to be arguing is that logic dictates that anyone with the economic power to ensure or prevent the passage of laws is necessarily correct
This builds on the foundation of the straw man above.
No. With me, you’ll do well not to try to read between the lines. I asked questions in almost all of my responses. What do people want? To force people not to move? To pay taxes in states they don’t live in anymore? No one has engaged those questions because they know that’s what would be required in this situation to get him to pay more state tax.
and that the only definition for a term like “theft” is the legal interpretation that you, as a non-lawyer, decide to apply
Oh, and then I asked if a buddy of mine who moved states is also a thief because he did the exact same thing with two other states. Y’know, to gauge what my interlocutor believed constituted “theft”. Should they not be able to move? Should they be made to pay state taxes to a state which they don’t live in anymore?
You’re saying that, despite centuries and millennia of colloquial usages of the term, both predating and concurrently used with the very restricted legal definition, any dictionary or other usage-derived definition is invalid.
Yeah I cheapens the word. If they were using it colloquially, one wonders why they didn’t reply immediately clarifying what they meant. It’s almost as if they didn’t mean it that way…
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Does the word theft need a legal definition to exist?
Outside of any legislative bodies jurisprudence, so the open sea, or Antarctica, on the moon or in open space perpendicular to our ecliptic, is theft wrong based off a legality? Or is theft considered wrong based off a morality?
Legal≠right, ≠fair, ≠justice, ≠moral
What is legal is entirely it’s own thing. And even at that, if someone breaks the law, but then no one applies the consequences of breaking that law against them, is that even a law then?
When the law is arbitrarily applied, like how the rich tend to not be charged with first offenses and just get warnings, then that teaches the privileged to not worry about the law, to move fast and break things, to ask forgiveness rather than permission. But when the winning class doesn’t respect the law and every class under them is constantly looking up for cues on how to rise, weeeeeell…
The law applied unequally results in no one respecting the law. And that’s the rational response. Corruption kills communities. Corrupted leaders are effectively undermining our society, regardless of their title, be that Senator, General, Judge, et al, they’re sappers, undertakers, saboteurs
We need harsher punishments, across the whole of life, for people being deceitful, spreading mis/disinformation, telling half truths and lying to any degree.
The entire foundation of human culture is built off trust and an adherence to an objective truth outside our body. What do you think faith is? What do you think spirituality is? Religion is merely a groups adherence to what they consider to be the universal truth. At the core of how we perceive, ourselves, society, existence as a whole, we have a universal, biological, demand for the truth.
And I think our law should reflect that to a higher degree. Like if repeated theft can lead to life in prison, one case of embezzlement that results in the theft of 1000s of retirement accounts should be met with an execution.
Typically M is thousand, and MM is million. Not that either of us generally get to use them.
Not in the US or US based websites.
Where is m used as thousands? Typically it’s k for thousands
M is only used for million in the US.
If I had 200 dollars and someone would offer me 60 cents for moving to Miami, I would not move.
If someone offered me $600M to move to Miami, I would offer someone $300M to move to Miami and pocket the rest
How long do I have to stay? I can buy someplace, lock the door and just be a shut in for a while.
I hear Miami is a pretty fun town to live in, but I haven’t been there since I was 6 so I have no idea. I don’t expect to ever visit given it’s in Florida.
He doesn’t have a billion dollars in cash
His net worth is just under $200 billion.
He could easily liquidate 1 billion of that to cash.
The article states that he’s planning to liquidate over $8B this year alone. I don’t known what kind of drugs that other commenter is smoking.
He liquidated 12 million Amazon shares for approximately $2 billion last week. It’s the capital gains on that sale that OP’s article is referring to.
Unless you meant cash, in which case you’re probably right. I don’t think his brokerage settled the sale with briefcases of $100 bills.
He just sold $2 billion in Amazon shares. So yeah, he has over a billion dollars in cash.
This article is about selling $8B of shares…
So, apparently he spends his time with a strange rubber woman. At least from the thumbnail pic.
And they hold hands in such an awkward way that it looks like an AI drew it.
These billionaires might as well be AI. They have no human feelings.
Does she have a TMNT left hand?
Definitely.
Could be an AI art left hand
I think he’s holding her middle two fingers, and she’s grabbing with her free fingers. Because yeah, otherwise it looks very AI generated.
It’s even worse if you look at the full picture. How the fuck is her plastic surgery that horrible when she’s with one of the richest people on the fucking planet?
People who get multiple plastic surgeries often request to make their features more and more extreme.
Jocelyn Wildenstein, aka Lion Woman, is a prime example.
Imaging being one of the wealthiest men in the world and that’s the best you can do.
Rubber robot man can only interface with strange robot woman.
I love that I have a way hotter wife than the richest man on earth, his looks plastic
At least he’s dating someone roughly his own age. He could probably do like Musk and date a series of women in their 30s, but he opted for a different strategy.
I hate everything about Jeff Bezos, especially his very existence, but this is the one thing I think it’s dumb to criticise him for.
I thought his previous wife was far more attractive than his current partner. Obviously I don’t know their personalities and such though.
I can see both her personalities just fine, and they look plastic
Everyone’s got different taste.
Billionaires typically have the weirdest, like children
I mean, he’s a robot, so he’s prolly rather into that artificial look.
Not trying to defend this shit bag, but looks aren’t everything.
If the only quality your wife has is “being hot” then I am afraid you lost.
Yeah. She’s not a good digging plastic bimbo. That guy with his hot wife who presumably loves him for who he is clearly lost.
I just want healthcare.
Would you settle for some aircraft carriers?
i like that the article mentions at the end that he bought 2 mansions and is considering buying 3 more to knock them down and then spend $200M building a different house.
If I had to come up with a comically overdone billionaire for a story, i don’t think i could come up with anything like that lmao.
One already is doing that in my state.
Imagine despising the country that facilitated the acquisition of your embarrassing hoard of wealth to begin with this much.
Does Jeff treat his parents that gave him a quarter million to start with this much disrespect as well? Or was their part in facilitating his success one that he actually acknowledges?
I genuinely love your use of the word embarrassing here. We need to normalize treating insane personal/family wealth as an embarrassment instead of something to be respected. With very few exceptions you only become a billionaire through inheritance of wealth undoubtedly built on exploitation, or by exploiting others yourself. They should be embarrassed by that.
I don’t think there are any exceptions. A billion is such an unfathomably large amount that I’m pretty sure you MUST rely on exploitation to ever acquire that much.
Oh good I was worried about his wealth poor fella
Miami is sinking.
Then why are the banks still investing in property over there?
Sunk cost fallacy.
So happy for him. Maybe he can buy some empty bottles for his employees.
Why do all these shit bags keep moving to my swamp? Get out of my swamp!
Huh. So the Jeff Bezos Trump attacked regularly for being an ultra-left liberal pinko commie red not only moved to Florida, but moved to Florida so he wouldn’t have to pay as much tax.
That doesn’t make much sense… unless Trump’s assessment of him was wrong. But how likely is that?
What the fuck is up with her claw thing that’s grasping his hand???
I mean what the fuck is also up with him making a fist while she grasps her hand? Is that like some sort of manliness role play
AI hands
His girlfriend’s a Canadian AI. You wouldn’t know her.
Why does she look like a joke character I made in Elden Ring?
I hope she has one hell of a personality, but I’m not so sure plastic is capable of that level of sentience.
She’s had a pretty successful career and raised 3 children, I’m sure there’s more to her than you see in that photo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Sánchez
Look out everyone, she was once a guest on The View!
Dear Miami, you’re the first to go. Disappearing, under melting snow…
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